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00:01 πŸ”— hook54321 anyone know when this is happening or if they've started a small beta test of it yet? http://gizmodo.com/the-wayback-machine-is-getting-a-search-engine-1739099940
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03:51 πŸ”— SketchCow That block of text did not need to be in #archiveteam
03:51 πŸ”— SketchCow I am going to counteract with "Let me do what I know how to do."
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09:16 πŸ”— luckcolor relaying from #warrior
09:16 πŸ”— luckcolor Hi guys
09:16 πŸ”— luckcolor I keep getting this error https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/seesaw-kit/issues/96 On every item request seesaw makes
09:17 πŸ”— luckcolor Has this happened to anybody?
09:36 πŸ”— Fletcher luckcolor, do you know which project the errors ocurrs on and if it happens when you switch to a different project?
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10:02 πŸ”— luckcolor @Fletcher it happens to livejournaldisco
10:03 πŸ”— luckcolor i'm chekcing all the other because at the moment i don't remember
10:04 πŸ”— luckcolor same to ftp grab
10:04 πŸ”— luckcolor fotlog seems to work now
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10:21 πŸ”— luckcolor google code doean't work
10:34 πŸ”— joepie91 [12:33] <BnA-Rob1n> Just read a blog post about 500px.com raising their cut for every sold picture from 30% to 70% ("to help the further growth of 500px"), one of the founders is the same as livejournal. Maby we should do a sanity grab?
10:37 πŸ”— BnA-Rob1n But as you can also open shops on there and shops are of photographers who might or might not have other shops at other stock photo websites it might be a legal bees nest
10:38 πŸ”— joepie91 bees are fine
10:38 πŸ”— joepie91 bears are a problem
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11:07 πŸ”— alfie joepie91: have met both bees and bears, will take bears over bees anyday.
11:08 πŸ”— ersi Take the animal discussion in #archiveteam-bs
11:08 πŸ”— alfie done
11:11 πŸ”— alfie re: 500px/flickr/similar: while i can't see 500px going anywhere anytime soon (actual pro photogs use it and make money off it) yahoo have a track record for just nuking vast swathes of the internet with no real warning. i'd prioritise archiving flickr over 500px
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11:20 πŸ”— BnA-Rob1n absolutely! 500px might catch fire sometime in the furture if they really need to take a 70% cut just to grow their website. Flickr is being drenched in gasoline by yahoo, being the pyromaniac it is.
11:21 πŸ”— SimpBrain can see a few big sites going this year
11:22 πŸ”— alfie as much as I care about the loss of content (that's why I'm here!) i'm finding it very hard to care about the loss of the services themselves.
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12:11 πŸ”— Honno Whats the difference between "item cdx index" and "item cdx meta-index" on the IA? ie look at download options here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_gamemaker_20141118063844
12:11 πŸ”— Honno And, is the json.gz file listed there just a json formatted index file?
12:14 πŸ”— Honno What's the warc.os.cdx.gz even
12:15 πŸ”— davidar alfie: yeah, it'd be much easier if these services just made a habit of synchronising with IA in preparation of their inevitable demise
12:15 πŸ”— alfie davidar: that implies they give a shit ;)
12:16 πŸ”— * davidar was being sardonic
12:16 πŸ”— * alfie was being deadpan
12:18 πŸ”— davidar surely some people at these companies give a shit about such things?
12:18 πŸ”— davidar they can't all be bastards
12:19 πŸ”— * davidar prepares to be told he's not jaded enough yet
12:19 πŸ”— luckcolor So guys anybody knows why the seesaw script is returning my error? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/seesaw-kit/issues/96
12:19 πŸ”— luckcolor ftb grab
12:19 πŸ”— luckcolor google code
12:20 πŸ”— luckcolor livejournal
12:20 πŸ”— luckcolor and other scipts seems to have this error
12:20 πŸ”— luckcolor footlog doesn't seem to be affected
12:20 πŸ”— davidar luckcolor: I assume the script supports python3?
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12:27 πŸ”— davidar (it appears to be a unicode issue)
12:35 πŸ”— joepie91 davidar: mix of "nobody cares", "nobody has time for it", "lawyers say we can't do that", and "I'm told by $boss that that's not my department, so however much I would like to help..."
12:40 πŸ”— davidar those don't seem like insurmountable problems though - people just need the right incentives
12:40 πŸ”— davidar can't IA just pretend to be an offsite backup service or something? :p
12:41 πŸ”— Sanqui sites prefer to have full control over their data - including the ability to pull the plug...
12:44 πŸ”— davidar Sanqui: that's actually kind of perverted :(
12:45 πŸ”— * davidar increases jaded gauge
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12:50 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
12:53 πŸ”— alfie part of the reason my personal site is also a git repo... clone away
12:54 πŸ”— davidar this is why I want the distributed web to happen - centralisation and archiving just don't mix well apparently
12:56 πŸ”— alfie davidar: i'm a fan of "centralised distribution", in a way. I like hosting my own shit on my own servers, BUT i also like making my shit available for others to save if they think it's cool
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12:57 πŸ”— alfie :D fixed my bindhost, nice
12:57 πŸ”— davidar alfie: yeah, it's about lowering the friction of allowing others to mirror things if they want
12:58 πŸ”— alfie davidar: hence, git clone https://github.com/alfiepates/blog.alfiepates.me.git
12:59 πŸ”— davidar yeah, basically that, but on the scale of the whole web :)
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13:36 πŸ”— joepie91 davidar: don't overestimate 'the distributed web'. in almost every implementation, it makes it *easier* to lose data.
13:37 πŸ”— alfie a torrent is only available as long as people keep seeding, etc
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13:40 πŸ”— davidar stop trying to crush my glimmer of optimism :p
13:41 πŸ”— schbirid can i send one of you in europe (maybe germany) some driver 1.44 floppies and cds to rip and archive.org=
13:59 πŸ”— luckcolor @davidar yes i'm using python 3 latest
13:59 πŸ”— luckcolor python3.5
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15:04 πŸ”— Honno pywb works with gzipped warcs right?
15:08 πŸ”— Frogging yes
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15:13 πŸ”— Honno thanks Frogging
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16:19 πŸ”— arkiver chfoo: can you please create a target on FOS for virginmedia?
16:40 πŸ”— luckcolor So nobody knows how to fix the https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/seesaw-kit/issues/96?
16:41 πŸ”— ersi Could you please... comment which project is generating the error on the github issue?
16:41 πŸ”— ersi also, calm your tits etc
17:04 πŸ”— luckcolor @ersy oh it's just i've been asking the whole day :P
17:04 πŸ”— luckcolor i supposed you already read my previous messages
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17:06 πŸ”— luckcolor What is the problem that the pipeline script is failing to get items for certain projects
17:06 πŸ”— luckcolor and it's giving that error log i posted on github
17:07 πŸ”— luckcolor And i don't know how to fix as i don't know the python language
17:07 πŸ”— luckcolor So i was hoping somebody here has already faced the issue or has some solution to it
17:07 πŸ”— luckcolor As in this case i can't run the pipelines
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19:05 πŸ”— chfoo arkiver: fos isn't reachable right now ("No route to host"). remind me later when it comes back
19:05 πŸ”— Frogging can confirm^
19:06 πŸ”— chfoo luckcolor: give me an hour or so to publish the fix for it
19:18 πŸ”— ersi Yes, I've ignored the previous messages just fine
19:22 πŸ”— luckcolor Thanks chfoo
19:22 πŸ”— luckcolor it's fine ersi don't worry about it
19:22 πŸ”— luckcolor :P
19:22 πŸ”— ersi :pPpPp
19:35 πŸ”— arkiver chfoo: ok!
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20:08 πŸ”— iamyogi96 hi
20:08 πŸ”— iamyogi96 every one
20:08 πŸ”— iamyogi96 can any one tell me the captcha for
20:08 πŸ”— iamyogi96 WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
20:08 πŸ”— xmc iamyogi96: what is your quest
20:09 πŸ”— iamyogi96 @xmc
20:09 πŸ”— iamyogi96 i want to fill in the captcha
20:09 πŸ”— xmc yes that is my name
20:09 πŸ”— xmc yes that is your task
20:09 πŸ”— xmc but your quest is a larger thing than just satisfying the gatekeeper
20:09 πŸ”— iamyogi96 sorry
20:09 πŸ”— iamyogi96 i am just new here
20:09 πŸ”— xmc yahoosucks
20:10 πŸ”— xmc you should stay in irc
20:10 πŸ”— iamyogi96 i was trying to register in
20:10 πŸ”— JW_work what did you want to change on the wiki?
20:10 πŸ”— iamyogi96 archive team warrior
20:10 πŸ”— JW_work you don't need to modify the wiki to run the warrior
20:11 πŸ”— iamyogi96 nothing
20:11 πŸ”— iamyogi96 i am just trying to login\
20:11 πŸ”— iamyogi96 can i register
20:11 πŸ”— iamyogi96 or not
20:11 πŸ”— xmc yes
20:11 πŸ”— xmc the magic word is yahoosucks
20:12 πŸ”— Atluxity iamyogi96: also, welcome :)
20:13 πŸ”— iamyogi96 thank you @Atluxity
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20:13 πŸ”— iamyogi96 i am here to learn little bit of coding
20:13 πŸ”— iamyogi96 if i could learn anything
20:14 πŸ”— phuzion iamyogi96: Befire you learn coding and whatnot, please, PLEASE learn that it's not acceptable to spam a channel like you did in #effteepee
20:14 πŸ”— phuzion Before*
20:14 πŸ”— JW_work well, archiveteam isn't particularly a coding school β€” but we have plenty of things that need code written for them…
20:15 πŸ”— iamyogi96 ok
20:18 πŸ”— ersi Also, feel free to use #archiveteam-bs for general chatter - to minimize the traffic here for archiving/co-ordination efforts. Thanks.
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20:48 πŸ”— Tom__ Hi
20:50 πŸ”— Atluxity hi
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20:51 πŸ”— Tom__ I have a question about Warc files?
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20:52 πŸ”— xmc Tom__: if it's not about keeping an active project going, can you please ask it in #archiveteam-bs ?
20:52 πŸ”— Tom__ Yes, thank you.
20:52 πŸ”— xmc (i know a thing or two about warc files)
20:52 πŸ”— Tom__ I will ask it in #archiveteam-bs
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