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03:30 🔗 RavetcoFX Hey everyone, acording to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7N254MTA4Q this youtuber (Louis Rossmann) might have his videos taken down
03:30 🔗 JesseW RavetcoFX: how many videos are we talking about?
03:30 🔗 RavetcoFX I will be trying to archive his channel, but my internet is very slow
03:31 🔗 RavetcoFX JesseW: 727
03:32 🔗 DoomTay I thought it was gonna be in the thousands
03:32 🔗 Frogging ohai RavetcoFX
03:32 🔗 RavetcoFX Frogging: same as frogging101?
03:32 🔗 Frogging yep
03:32 🔗 RavetcoFX cool, funny seeing you here :)
03:33 🔗 JesseW Frogging: can you look into sticking this into #archivebot?
03:33 🔗 Frogging which, that youtube channel?
03:33 🔗 Frogging wouldn't it be better for someone to youtube-dl it and put it in a collection
03:33 🔗 Frogging I don't know how ArchiveBot deals with youtube channels
03:34 🔗 Frogging I imagine not well, the structure isn't exactly top-down
03:34 🔗 RavetcoFX That's what I'm doing right with youtube-dl, I don't know if i'll be fast enough though
03:35 🔗 wumpus fyi dnshistory.org has not replied to an email to support or a support ticket on the 8086.net website. So... if anyone wanted to grab some of their data, you could start by sticking the Alexa top million sites into the dnshistory.org search box. Likely it will be a slow crawl due to lack of resources on their end.
03:35 🔗 JesseW wumpus: I think arkiver was planning to write a Warrior project for it.
03:35 🔗 RavetcoFX He wasn't allowed to talk about what's going on aparently, but I seems like Apple might be shutting down his business and channel because he does "unauthorised" repairs for macbooks
03:45 🔗 Frogging RavetcoFX: How fast is your connection?
03:45 🔗 Frogging I can youtube-dl them at 3.7MB/s
03:47 🔗 Frogging I'm using youtube-dl --write-info-json -f bestvideo[ext=mp4]+bestaudio[ext=m4a]
03:49 🔗 RavetcoFX maxing out at 1.5MiB/s
03:49 🔗 RavetcoFX I'm not bothering with bestvideo/audio
03:51 🔗 RavetcoFX I just trying to get 720p
03:52 🔗 RavetcoFX I'm just trying*
03:52 🔗 Frogging kk
03:54 🔗 RavetcoFX Frogging: I found he's made a partial backup to the Internet Archive already https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Louis+Rossmann%22
03:55 🔗 Frogging oh, that's good
03:56 🔗 Frogging looks like that's Fletcher's doing, actually :)
03:57 🔗 RavetcoFX Frogging: so are you a project leader here? I had no idea you were into the archiving scene
03:57 🔗 Frogging nah, I'm not a leader... I'm just a guy who hangs around here. I also run a #archivebot pipeline. Actually this is meant to be a low-traffic channel, so if we want to discuss further we should move to #archiveteam-bs
03:58 🔗 RavetcoFX kk
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04:45 🔗 ravetcofx did anyone start archiving calendar.sunrise.am ?
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05:03 🔗 ravetcofx WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
05:04 🔗 bwn yahoosucks
05:04 🔗 ravetcofx lol
05:05 🔗 SketchCow Now, knave, go forth and improve the Wiki
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12:47 🔗 luckcolor wumpus: as i previously stated it's easier to crawl
12:47 🔗 luckcolor we just need a list of registries to query them
12:48 🔗 luckcolor like com org etc
12:49 🔗 HCross hes not here
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12:49 🔗 luckcolor ah
12:49 🔗 luckcolor ok
12:50 🔗 luckcolor well i can enumerate a list of 3 characters registries just fine
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12:50 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: what was the question?
12:51 🔗 luckcolor "<wumpus> fyi dnshistory.org has not replied to an email to support or a support ticket on the 8086.net website. So... if anyone wanted to grab some of their data, you could start by sticking the Alexa top million sites into the dnshistory.org search box. Likely it will be a slow crawl due to lack of resources on their end.
12:51 🔗 luckcolor <JesseW> wumpus: I think arkiver was planning to write a Warrior project for it."
12:51 🔗 luckcolor i'm saying that atleast we can enumerate and crawl the 3 characters registries easly
12:52 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: er, how do you plan on doing that, exactly?
12:52 🔗 phuzion Did anyone grab the Louis Rossman YouTube channel yet?
12:52 🔗 luckcolor if you use browse https://dnshistory.org/subdomains/1/com
12:52 🔗 luckcolor you can easly change com to watever registry
12:53 🔗 joepie91 oh, you mean on dnshistory itself
12:53 🔗 luckcolor yeah
12:53 🔗 luckcolor so you can basically change the registry name there
12:53 🔗 luckcolor and get a different result list
12:54 🔗 luckcolor and those lists can probably either get archivebotted or made into items for archivebot
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12:54 🔗 luckcolor but we first need a dns registry list first
12:54 🔗 luckcolor we can probably iterate up to 3 characters in leght just fine
12:55 🔗 luckcolor but we will then miss the custom named ones
12:55 🔗 luckcolor like .cake .stuff. etc
12:56 🔗 will luckcolor: any help? http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
12:56 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: they do rate limiting based on referer header
12:56 🔗 joepie91 sort of
12:57 🔗 luckcolor that would help
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12:57 🔗 luckcolor yeah we probably have to go very slowly
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12:57 🔗 joepie91 hm not quite rate limiting
12:57 🔗 luckcolor but i think in 8 days we can pull it off
12:57 🔗 joepie91 but it will throw you back to page 1 if you visit high numbers direcftly
12:57 🔗 joepie91 you can only get there through the next link
12:57 🔗 joepie91 ie. referer header
12:57 🔗 luckcolor ok
12:58 🔗 luckcolor so it's possible i presume
12:58 🔗 joepie91 yeah
12:58 🔗 joepie91 just need to make sure to get the referer header right
12:59 🔗 luckcolor i will just test on archivebot really quickly so wwe can see if we can use wpull as the discovery
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13:00 🔗 luckcolor https://dnshistory.org/subdomains/1/yt
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13:04 🔗 luckcolor nope i don't think it's getting them
13:04 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: well, my site is in there
13:04 🔗 joepie91 lol
13:05 🔗 joepie91 (pdf.yt)
13:05 🔗 luckcolor lol
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13:08 🔗 luckcolor yep we can't use archivebot
13:09 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: hmm. why not?
13:09 🔗 luckcolor wait
13:09 🔗 luckcolor did i put the url without trailing /
13:09 🔗 luckcolor yes
13:09 🔗 joepie91 oh right
13:09 🔗 joepie91 that
13:09 🔗 * luckcolor facepalm
13:10 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: if you just !a, wouldn't we get it?
13:10 🔗 joepie91 er
13:10 🔗 joepie91 if you just !a dnshistory.org
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13:10 🔗 joepie91 also, lol, they were selling a removal service
13:10 🔗 luckcolor no there's nothing that points to other registries
13:18 🔗 luckcolor https://dnshistory.org/subdomains/1/yt is case sensitive
13:18 🔗 luckcolor https://dnshistory.org/subdomains/1/YT won't work
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13:42 🔗 luckcolor joepie91: i'm now checking if the website has all the urls in the list you sent me
13:42 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: wait, I sent you a list?
13:42 🔗 * joepie91 is confuse
13:43 🔗 * luckcolor is more confused now
13:43 🔗 luckcolor wait
13:44 🔗 * luckcolor facepalm again
13:44 🔗 luckcolor joepie91: will sent the list to me
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13:48 🔗 Igloo Did the bot work luckcolor ?
13:49 🔗 Igloo Or does it need a more bespoke job?
13:50 🔗 luckcolor no it didn't work
13:51 🔗 luckcolor it just 200'd the page and then moved on
13:51 🔗 luckcolor with and without trailing / at the and of the url
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13:52 🔗 luckcolor O
13:53 🔗 luckcolor ok i just found out that we can't use status code for checking if a page is empty or not
13:53 🔗 luckcolor it will always give 200 on a blank page
13:53 🔗 luckcolor https://dnshistory.org/subdomains/1/asdksadmidhasdsadj eg
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14:03 🔗 luckcolor Igloo: can you check if you can do something? i sent a yt test url before
14:08 🔗 Igloo Sure
14:08 🔗 Igloo what do you need luckcolor ?
14:09 🔗 luckcolor if you can figure out a way to archive that page with all the domains linked to it
14:09 🔗 Igloo I am trying with my Heritrix crawler
14:09 🔗 luckcolor ok
14:14 🔗 Igloo I can get the 200 for the URL
14:14 🔗 Igloo But struggling to get it to actually parse it and go into the sub pages
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14:20 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o bzc6p
14:22 🔗 bzc6p Maybe this dnshistory project is ripe enough to get its own channel?
14:24 🔗 luckcolor ok so here's my discovery list http://pastebin.com/AWnrkiEY
14:25 🔗 Igloo bzc6p: moved it to BS temporarily
14:25 🔗 luckcolor ok
14:25 🔗 luckcolor works for me
14:25 🔗 bzc6p Let's find of a good channel name
14:26 🔗 luckcolor ehm historicaldnames?
14:26 🔗 luckcolor i'm bad at puns lol
14:26 🔗 Igloo dnshistoryishistory
14:27 🔗 luckcolor yeah that one works
14:28 🔗 luckcolor i mean it's much better than mine lol
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14:33 🔗 bzc6p #greatlokup
14:33 🔗 bzc6p * #greatlookup
14:33 🔗 Igloo that works too
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14:42 🔗 luckcolor yeah
14:42 🔗 luckcolor so we use that one? :P
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14:43 🔗 Igloo yeah use that one
14:43 🔗 bzc6p If there are no better suggestions
14:43 🔗 luckcolor yeah
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14:45 🔗 bzc6p arkiver: now that coursera and arto are done, can you please queue items for myvip, so that we can finish the project?
14:47 🔗 Igloo Coursera is still ongoing (Literally 5 items to run I think)
14:53 🔗 Nemo_bis I did not realise that http://tracker.archiveteam.org/sourceforgersync/ still needs help
14:54 🔗 bzc6p We literally haven't touched that project in a year
14:57 🔗 Nemo_bis I noticed because of http://softwareheritage.org/
14:58 🔗 bzc6p I suggested going on slowly, but nobody cared
14:58 🔗 bzc6p We'd be done by now
14:59 🔗 Nemo_bis Well, downloads went on according to the graph, no?
15:01 🔗 bzc6p That's tricky. Zoom in
15:02 🔗 bzc6p You meant that heritage site may have sourceforge stuff?
15:02 🔗 Nemo_bis I don't know, but I assume they're interested
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15:24 🔗 Atluxity I am trying to get insight into some routing, would anyone here by any chance know of an IP located in London?
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15:26 🔗 Atluxity never mind
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16:38 🔗 Trevor Why do I get and HTTP error when trying to download archived Twitch videos?
16:43 🔗 xmc depends on what the error is
16:45 🔗 Trevor The program im using to try to download it says 1.1 504 Gateway Time-out. Idk if thats helpful tho im a computer noob
16:47 🔗 xmc and what's the thing you're trying to download
16:48 🔗 Trevor Twitch VOD from Mindcracknetwork channel. http://media-cdn.twitch.tv/store51.media10/archives/2013-10-20/live_user_mindcracknetwork_1382246112.flv
16:49 🔗 xmc yep i get the same thing
16:50 🔗 Trevor So is it just broken?
16:51 🔗 xmc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:51 🔗 Trevor Ah well, thanks anyways for trying!
16:52 🔗 Igloo I'd say it's a twitch then
16:52 🔗 Igloo *thing
16:52 🔗 Igloo It was broken for me the other day and then worked, try in a few hours or so
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16:52 🔗 Trevor Alright thanks
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16:55 🔗 xmc how are we twitch support
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16:55 🔗 Igloo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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17:08 🔗 joepie91 well to be fair, archiveteam has a disturbingly large collective knowledge of weird failure modes of sites
17:08 🔗 joepie91 lol
17:08 🔗 xmc fair enough
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17:30 🔗 db48x` phuzion: yea, I grabbed it last night
17:31 🔗 phuzion db48x`: awesome, all 700some videos?
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17:31 🔗 db48x` yep
17:31 🔗 phuzion Nice. Thanks.
17:32 🔗 db48x` 703 in the end
17:32 🔗 DoomTay With metadata?
17:32 🔗 DoomTay Uh....I thought there were 727
17:33 🔗 db48x` [youtube:playlist] playlist Uploads from Louis Rossmann: Downloading 703 videos
17:33 🔗 db48x` [download] Downloading video 1 of 703
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17:34 🔗 db48x` and yes, I got descriptions, annotations, and metadata
17:34 🔗 DoomTay Cool
17:35 🔗 db48x` 152GB total
17:35 🔗 joepie91 that sounds too small
17:35 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: I already have 194GB here
17:36 🔗 db48x` hmm
17:36 🔗 db48x` biggest video is only 1.9GB
17:36 🔗 joepie91 nope
17:36 🔗 joepie91 I've seen at least one bigger one
17:36 🔗 db48x` only a dozen are larter than 1GB
17:36 🔗 joepie91 you might be grabbing the wrong quality
17:36 🔗 db48x` they're all 1280x720
17:37 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: yeah, that's too low
17:37 🔗 joepie91 you're probably using an old youtube-dl
17:37 🔗 db48x` hmm
17:37 🔗 joepie91 without specifying the right quality param
17:37 🔗 db48x` no, it's fresh
17:37 🔗 joepie91 older versions defaulted to `best`
17:37 🔗 joepie91 which despite the name isn't actually best
17:37 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: pip or distro?
17:37 🔗 DoomTay According to a quick glance, they're supposed to be 1080p60
17:38 🔗 db48x` joepie91: neither
17:38 🔗 joepie91 where'd you install it from, then?
17:38 🔗 joepie91 and I have one 6.7GB video here :p
17:38 🔗 db48x`  youtube-dl --version
17:38 🔗 db48x` 2016.07.01
17:38 🔗 joepie91 3840x2176 at 60fps
17:39 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: weird
17:41 🔗 db48x` could rerun it with -f 248+251 or something
17:42 🔗 db48x` hmm, could do --all-formats :)
17:42 🔗 db48x` I don't think it downloaded any of the DASH manifests at all
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17:51 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: you want bestaudio+bestvideo/best
17:52 🔗 joepie91 youtube-dl --title --continue --retries 4 --write-info-json --write-description --write-thumbnail --write-annotations --all-subs --ignore-errors --merge-output-format mkv -f 'bestvideo+bestaudio/best'
17:52 🔗 Frogging I did this "youtube-dl --write-info-json -f bestvideo[ext=mp4]+bestaudio[ext=m4a]"
17:53 🔗 Frogging I thought write-info-json implicitly gathers annotations
17:53 🔗 Frogging (reason for the ext=mp4 is that webm quality can suck sometimes)
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17:58 🔗 db48x` joepie91: that seems like it should be the default :)
17:59 🔗 joepie91 db48x`: it -should- be now
17:59 🔗 joepie91 Frogging: don't specify formats
17:59 🔗 db48x` joepie91: :)
17:59 🔗 joepie91 youtube-dl will determine itself which format is of the best quality
17:59 🔗 db48x` my other youtube-dl, on my other computer, just downloaded a 1920x1080 video, and I'm not using -f :P
17:59 🔗 db48x` function yt {
17:59 🔗 db48x` youtube-dl --write-description --write-annotations --write-info-json -f bestaudio+bestvideo/best -o "%(uploader)s/%(title)s - %(resolution)s [%(extractor)s;%(id)s;%(format_id)s].%(ext)s" --no-mtime --download-archive ".youtube-dl" --playlist-reverse --match-title "$1" "$2"
17:59 🔗 db48x` }
18:00 🔗 Frogging joepie91: I know, but sometimes it chooses webm and it is noticeably worse quality than the mp4
18:02 🔗 db48x` bah: ERROR: The first format must contain the video, try using "-f 135+251"
18:04 🔗 db48x` that was w464rsss9yg, which apparently only has 720x480 video
18:16 🔗 db48x` lol
18:16 🔗 db48x` -f bestvideo+bestaudio works, but -f bestaudio+bestvideo does not
18:17 🔗 Frogging yes
18:17 🔗 Frogging you need video first
18:18 🔗 DoomTay Why are audio and video separate anyway?
18:22 🔗 db48x` dunno exactly
18:22 🔗 db48x` probably to prevent a combinatorial explosion
18:23 🔗 joepie91 youtube provides separate video and audio streams now
18:23 🔗 joepie91 on most videos
18:23 🔗 joepie91 both of which are higher quality than the best combined stream
18:24 🔗 Frogging so wait is there any reason for _all_ of us to be downloading this
18:24 🔗 Frogging :p
18:24 🔗 db48x` Frogging: RAIA
18:24 🔗 joepie91 redundant array of independent archivists?
18:24 🔗 db48x` yep
18:24 🔗 joepie91 :P
18:24 🔗 Frogging sure
18:24 🔗 Frogging good enough for me :p
18:24 🔗 joepie91 now, sleep. also whoop whoop offtopic siren
18:24 🔗 Frogging yeah
18:24 🔗 joepie91 should probably go to -bs
18:24 🔗 joepie91 :)
18:24 🔗 joepie91 night :p
18:24 🔗 db48x` how is this offtopic?
18:25 🔗 db48x` sleep well though
18:25 🔗 Frogging db48x`: well it's lengthy, and this is meant to be a low traffic channel where conversations start and are moved elsewhere
18:25 🔗 db48x` eh, I dislike that idea
18:25 🔗 db48x` moving conversations breaks them
18:26 🔗 db48x` and the name is wrong
18:26 🔗 db48x` -bs channels are used for off-topic conversations, not for the second halves of conversations
18:26 🔗 xmc well
18:27 🔗 xmc that's not how we do it. #archiveteam is supposed to be a place where someone can look and see "what's going on today" and then follow up on things in other channels
18:27 🔗 xmc because we start a lot of projects that last a while and have discussion that is not really interesting unless you care
18:34 🔗 db48x` well, that's downloading again
18:34 🔗 db48x` time for me to sleep as well
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19:04 🔗 Start https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4qqv56/louis_rossmanns_youtube_channel_that_is_full_of/
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20:33 🔗 Atluxity much discussion about little knowledge
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22:55 🔗 SketchCow This is a great fight
22:55 🔗 SketchCow Also, siding with xmc on this one
22:55 🔗 SketchCow db48x`: What's with the fisherman's sleep schedule
22:56 🔗 DoomTay Wait, what fight?
22:56 🔗 DoomTay The SSL ordeal?
22:57 🔗 xmc they're just an seo startup
22:57 🔗 xmc it's hilarious
22:58 🔗 JesseW1 xmc: who is just an seo startup?
22:58 🔗 xmc idk, some shitbag
22:59 🔗 xmc uh, i replyed to them on twitter
22:59 🔗 xmc http://edocr.com/
23:00 🔗 JesseW1 lolololol
23:00 🔗 JesseW1 anyway, I should take this to -bs
23:05 🔗 SketchCow (The fight over the conversation debate of #archiveteam)
23:06 🔗 SketchCow #archiveteam is a warroom, #archiveteam-bs is a deck out back
23:08 🔗 Frogging you can't fight in here, this is the war room!
23:16 🔗 SketchCow Are we duping https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup ?
23:16 🔗 SketchCow We should be
23:17 🔗 Frogging at least 3 people here (including me) are youtube-dl'ing it
23:17 🔗 Frogging should check how that's getting on actually
23:17 🔗 BartoCH btw, how did coursera's old courses archival went?
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