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WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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namespace |
" Google Groups: "Gone within a year" (SketchCow, 2016-06-07). " |
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Couldn't find anything with google. |
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Source? |
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rsanek: What is your quest with the wiki, friend? |
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just wanted to edit a date, though I found the secret in an irc log |
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Do we have any crawlers that can do JS? |
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namespace |
Google Groups is pure JS slurry, at least to get the machine readable DOM part of it. |
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we do, ArchiveBot does phantomJS but I think putting a general purpose crawler onto something as big as that would be asking for trouble |
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but it is possible, since that's what you're asking |
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Noted. |
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How would you handle a behemoth of that size then? |
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Warrior job |
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(I wanted to do this in high school, but I was technically incapable at the time.) |
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(I can probably actually write up the warrior scripts now.) |
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ahahahhahaha |
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It's called someone leaked the info to me |
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there's still a robots.txt bug preventing google groups from being viewable in wayback https://web.archive.org/web/20110514012530/http://groups.google.com/group/google.public.support.general/msg/d88f36fb3e2c0aac |
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it does seem to be working better now on other sites though |
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foxbox.tv seems to be "working" |
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That is, it's not affected anymore, but it turns out that a good chunk of stuff is gone-gone |
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SketchCow: K. |
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namespace |
Also wow I don't know if you tried scouting the directory structure of Groups, but it's really bad. All the top level categories have random numbers (at least in so far as I can tell, they're random). Then each post inside of a group has a unique (random?) ID. |
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Wondering if it's not random and actually just a hex string or something. |
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namespace: We can use the JWT(?) API. |
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PurpleSym |
I’ve seen scripts on GitHub, but I can’t find them anymore. |
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*GWT |
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wrong chat |
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JesseW |
Anyone happen to have a copy of wikipedia-logs-2001-08-17.7z (used to be at http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/wikipedia-logs-2001-08-17.7z six years ago)? IA search doesn't turn up a copy... |
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db48x |
JesseW: https://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000*/http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/wikipedia-logs-2001-08-17.7z |
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strange, when I looked I didn't find that |
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divingk |
Good god. |
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divingk |
Digging through a bunch of games and finding their source code. |
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divingk |
And I've only dug through games on three platforms, tops. |
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divingk: say more? |
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Well...it's interesting to say the least. |
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divingk |
What I've been doing is using Astrogrep over ROM collections. |
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divingk |
I knew I would find bits of code, but I wasn't aware of the potential scale behind this. |
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JesseW |
what do you mean "finding their source code" -- where are you finding it? Included in the ROMs, or? |
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divingk |
Yes, source code accidentally included in ROMs. |
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divingk |
I can provide a lot of examples of this. |
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JesseW |
neat! |
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divingk |
https://tcrf.net/Ometron |
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JesseW |
That's very good, no? |
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divingk |
https://tcrf.net/Invasion_(ZX_Spectrum,_Bulldog_Software) |
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JesseW |
More interesting data to examine and learn from. |
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divingk |
Good, but I can't help but think there are many games out there with this sort of thing/ |
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divingk |
I haven't looked into the C64 library. |
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divingk |
No doubt it's one of the most interesting things to find in a game, |
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divingk |
that is depending on how long said fragments are. |
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For instance, here's one case where most of the code was discovered: https://tcrf.net/Exodus_(ZX_Spectrum,_Firebird_Software) |
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divingk |
Whereas here, there's only a snippet: https://tcrf.net/Robotron:_2084_(ZX_Spectrum) |
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divingk |
Most of the ones found so far are on the ZX Spectrum. |
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divingk |
I've found some on the Amstrad CPC too, plus I wrote up one for the Supervision. |
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divingk |
https://tcrf.net/Arcade_Flight_Simulator_(ZX_Spectrum) |
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divingk |
A rare example of a Codemasters game with code sprawling about. |
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divingk |
Early Ocean games, like Hunchback or Eskimo Eddie, also have bits of code. |
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divingk |
https://tcrf.net/Hunchback_(ZX_Spectrum) |
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divingk |
But yeah, curious if anyone here knows about this... |
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JesseW |
(you may want to move this to #archiveteam-bs, as this channel is generally reserved for quick announcements, rather than longer discussions) |
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divingk |
Oh. |
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divingk |
Mind if I copy and paste what I said here over to there? |
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JesseW |
Better to just link it from the public log (which I'll do) |
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Hm, the wiki doesn't seem to have an entry for "The Cutting Room Floor" (video game history site: https://tcrf.net/ ) yet -- someone should add one. |
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