#archiveteam 2016-07-30,Sat

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00:22 🔗 DoomTay Would there be anything backup-able with http://techraptor.net/content/disney-infinity-online-services-shutting ?
00:23 🔗 DoomTay Also, BioWare's forums are going kaput next month. http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/29/12325194/bioware-forums-shutdown
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07:23 🔗 Nemo_bis Who's interested in a disk with all the gmane data? https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
07:24 🔗 PurpleSym @SketchCow | [00:05:46] Gmane handled.
07:25 🔗 SketchCow He's working with us/IA
07:26 🔗 Nemo_bis Ok sorry. :) /me slaps self "I told you to use /lastlog and Special:Search"
07:26 🔗 SketchCow Not a big deal. We have a lot on our plate and we don't want to miss stuff.
07:26 🔗 SketchCow Keeping track of what of Yahoo is murdered will be interesting.
07:27 🔗 SketchCow They are going to have layoffs that will send a tsunami of half-rate talent into the streets like rarely before.
07:27 🔗 Nemo_bis Probably, Yahoo itself will lose track.
07:27 🔗 Nemo_bis Nokia is a good precedent.
07:27 🔗 SketchCow Entitled, whiny, self-indulgent brogrammers by the shipload
07:27 🔗 Nemo_bis Heh.
07:28 🔗 xmc brogrammers who've grown old but not up
07:28 🔗 Nemo_bis Microsoft layoffs have been massive too though.
07:28 🔗 SketchCow Microsoft layoffs have always been massive
07:29 🔗 SketchCow Some are secret layoffs.
07:29 🔗 SketchCow Do you know about the secret layoffs
07:29 🔗 Nemo_bis No
07:29 🔗 SketchCow Microsoft does this thing.
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07:29 🔗 SketchCow I don't have the term at arm's length, but the term is something like "Unassigned"
07:30 🔗 SketchCow But it's very weird, like "Unassigned classification" or "Non-declared assignment"
07:30 🔗 godane hey SketchCow
07:30 🔗 SketchCow What it means is: We are not going to fire you, but you have nothing left to do.
07:30 🔗 godane i found this: https://diva.sfsu.edu
07:30 🔗 SketchCow So people quietly go and find new jobs, deciding to "move on" with their careers
07:31 🔗 SketchCow So imagine you and your partner are not breaking up, just... you don't sleep in the same room and you don'
07:31 🔗 SketchCow t interact and then something happens where you sadly have to go to a new state and so you aren't together
07:31 🔗 SketchCow This is done to lay people off or fire them with the least amount of fuss.
07:32 🔗 SketchCow You can only do this if you have a battle chest of staggering proportions. Dozens, probably hundreds of employees, who are let go but still 'go to work' until they spontaneously decide to go to new jobs, citing that they work at Microsoft but want to move on.
07:32 🔗 xmc interesting, i've not heard of that before
07:32 🔗 xmc it must be a fairly little-spoken-about secret
07:32 🔗 SketchCow This has gone on for at least 10 years that I can personally verify. Probably longer.
07:32 🔗 yipdw where *do* you want to go today?
07:33 🔗 midas SketchCow: i'd sign up for that, and just do nothing all day.
07:33 🔗 xmc but you still have to fill out quarterly goals and self-evaluations
07:34 🔗 SketchCow Grab https://twitter.com/antireality/status/758998526990823426
07:34 🔗 xmc and do the sexual harassment training and corporate compliance and yearly re-up on your standards
07:34 🔗 midas xmc: i'd do that.
07:34 🔗 SketchCow You might.
07:34 🔗 * xmc shrug
07:34 🔗 SketchCow I thought I'd do a lot of things until I realized what doing them entailed.
07:34 🔗 xmc SketchCow: i just archivebot'd that
07:35 🔗 SketchCow Thanks.
07:35 🔗 xmc def
07:36 🔗 JesseW That sort of "we'll pay you, but we won't give you anything to do" is common in a number of other fields, too. Police and teachers come to mind, but I suspect it's present in other places too.
07:36 🔗 JesseW And for hourly or piecework jobs, I expect it's closer to the rule than the exception.
07:37 🔗 JesseW Interesting that MS is known to do it, though.
07:37 🔗 SketchCow Not officially known.
07:37 🔗 xmc gosh, 300dpi from a halftoned original looks really good
07:37 🔗 SketchCow I just can't keep my mouth shot.
07:37 🔗 SketchCow shut
07:37 🔗 SketchCow and shot
07:37 🔗 midas currently waiting for a boat.
07:38 🔗 xmc i know a guy who had that arrangement at a different tech co
07:38 🔗 JesseW well, I doubt you are the only one -- and if it's been going on for a decade
07:38 🔗 xmc after six months they realized that he could out-wait them and they gave him something else to do
07:39 🔗 midas see xmc, that would be me.
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07:40 🔗 xmc then he quit, because he'd been using some of all that spare time to start another company
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07:40 🔗 midas that might be me.
07:40 🔗 xmc i get it i get it i get it
07:40 🔗 xmc you could do this
07:41 🔗 midas well starting another company sounds like work... ;-)
07:41 🔗 midas i prefer to be lazy
07:41 🔗 yipdw it is a fucking astounding amount of work
07:42 🔗 yipdw sorry this is going to #-bs territory
07:42 🔗 midas also, probably more suited for -bs
07:42 🔗 midas and being this lazy on a saturday, ill probably end it here anyway
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08:38 🔗 Yoshimura One question. Why is AT so biased around magnetic media? There was this lengthy discussion how to archive data.
08:39 🔗 Yoshimura Magnetic tapes have investment of $2500, then it costs $40 per 6TB. And are a lot smaller, retention longer, data correction included.
08:40 🔗 xmc because it's not accessible easily
08:41 🔗 Yoshimura Volunteer drives that are offline are even less.
08:41 🔗 xmc this is off topic
08:41 🔗 Yoshimura The tapes can be in possession of a core member with access to another member.
08:41 🔗 Yoshimura Also regarding of a team of volunteers storing stuff on hard drives and checking integrity, re-downloading damaged data from someone else is also partially a nonsense. It does make sense but after error correction which could mean one can self-repair data via automatic software without needs of any downloads.
08:41 🔗 Yoshimura Why is it offtopic?
08:42 🔗 yipdw you're probably looking for #strawman
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09:25 🔗 Tigew I never thought of myself as a pack rat, until I found this
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14:05 🔗 joepie91 fuck
14:05 🔗 joepie91 http://blog.npmjs.org/post/148119862590/out-with-the-newww-and-in-with-the-www-an-update
14:05 🔗 joepie91 did anybody grab a copy?
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14:16 🔗 dashcloud so, Disney Infinity is slowly being shut down, and everything will be dead by March 2017: http://kotaku.com/the-death-of-disney-infinity-has-begun-1784537766 not sure actually how much can be archived, but wanted to let people know
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14:25 🔗 DoomTay Does Disney Infintiy even have anything in that matter that could be access with a browser a la Battlelog?
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14:44 🔗 dashcloud there might be some forums because it mentions community features, but not being a player, I'm not sure
14:44 🔗 DoomTay https://infinity.disney.com/community/forums
14:49 🔗 DoomTay We could drop that on ArchiveBot, but its queue is almost full
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16:20 🔗 luckcolor well there's space in the queue now
16:20 🔗 luckcolor i can schedule https://infinity.disney.com
16:21 🔗 luckcolor it's going
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20:29 🔗 TC01 http://blog.bioware.com/2016/07/29/concerning-our-forums/ Bioware is apparently shutting down their forums and removing read-only access to them come October 25th; any chance they could be grabbed?
20:33 🔗 yipdw they already are
20:33 🔗 yipdw check http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/; there's a forum.bioware.com job
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21:09 🔗 TC01 oh, great
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22:30 🔗 DoomTay_ Any sense in trying to save https://lightsaber.withgoogle.com/ ? My worry is that even if all of the assets were saved, if it were to go down, then functionality would be broken unless stuff were changed
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23:42 🔗 bai DoomTay_: it seems to rely on a websocket server...someone would likely have to reverse engineer the packets that get sent (looks like binary frames)
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23:45 🔗 DoomTay_ That's what I thought
23:45 🔗 DoomTay_ Woah, why am I underscored?
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23:46 🔗 MrRadar Your connection probably dropped and you reconnected before the server realized your old connection was dead
23:47 🔗 MrRadar That meant the DoomTay nick was still in use so an underscore was added to distinguish the new connection from the old one
23:47 🔗 DoomTay Ah
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