#archiveteam 2016-11-01,Tue

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03:24 🔗 powerKitt https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/5aew97/sciencehd_says_farewell_on_november_31/ We might want to get in contact with the sysop and have him dump the torrent files, and then import them into archive.org ?
03:24 🔗 phuzion I might have a contact for sciencehd, gimme a minute
03:25 🔗 powerKitt Alright.
03:29 🔗 Blackout What kind of content is it powerKitt ?
03:30 🔗 powerKitt Blackout: https://opentrackers.org/sciencehd/ e-learning, apparently.
03:37 🔗 phuzion 32-28TB, would we have the ability to store that much on short notice?
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03:42 🔗 powerKitt I know I don't have that much space.
03:43 🔗 Selavi phuzion, where'd you get that number?
03:44 🔗 phuzion Selavi: Connections.
03:44 🔗 Selavi haha okay
03:44 🔗 powerKitt They said they had a contact for ScienceHD's staff.
03:45 🔗 powerKitt Phuzion: is that all just the .torrent files or the actual files in the torrents?
03:45 🔗 phuzion Almost certainly content.
03:45 🔗 Blackout Yeah I was wondering the same thing
03:45 🔗 Blackout That would be a ton of .torrent files
03:46 🔗 phuzion What.CD probably has less than 250GB of .torrent files, tbqh.
03:47 🔗 Blackout Aren't they text as well meaning they should compress?
03:47 🔗 phuzion I'm not sure, I don't have an account there and therefore can't really say
03:48 🔗 Blackout I meant torrent files in general
03:48 🔗 Blackout Not the contents
03:48 🔗 powerKitt .torrent files are text, yeah.
03:50 🔗 Blackout Sadly I am a drive pesant so I don't have that kind of space you mentioned. Would the torrents work after the tracker goes dark?
03:50 🔗 powerKitt If we could get just the .torrent files, they could be split up and have the content downloaded as a warrior project?
03:50 🔗 Blackout But where would it go?
03:51 🔗 Blackout I wouldn't think the IA would be acceptable due to potential copyright issues
03:51 🔗 powerKitt They could be modified to be tracked on a public tracker and then reuploaded to thepiratebay.org
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03:52 🔗 Blackout But they'd still need initial seeds right?
03:52 🔗 nickname_ so hey is it death week
03:53 🔗 xmc well it's partway into the last fiscal quarter
03:53 🔗 xmc so,
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03:53 🔗 Blackout *burn everything*
03:54 🔗 nickname_ panic grab everything
03:54 🔗 Blackout lol you can only grab one thing per hour per country
03:54 🔗 powerKitt They're still going to be tracked on scienceHD until it shuts down on the 30th of November, so if we just modify them to add public trackers they should be seeded up until then by existing users.
03:54 🔗 Blackout muahahaha
03:54 🔗 Blackout but would the seeds need to be on the same tracker?
03:55 🔗 Blackout or is it like a secondary tracker
03:55 🔗 powerKitt Almost all modern torrent clients can pull swarms from multiple trackers.
03:55 🔗 nickname_ so yeah vessel is dead
03:55 🔗 Blackout Yeah I saw that and it made me so sad
03:56 🔗 Blackout tfw Verizon
03:56 🔗 powerKitt ?
03:56 🔗 Blackout I'm pretty sure they use a higher bitrate than YouTube as well as no ads
03:56 🔗 nickname_ i only know vessel because of a video by veratasium
03:56 🔗 Blackout Verizon bought Vessel and is killing them
03:56 🔗 tyzoid Blackout: Vessel was a paid platform
03:56 🔗 Blackout Yeah I use it
03:57 🔗 Blackout or used? as it's shutting down
03:57 🔗 tyzoid I used it when they had a 1 year free trial from starting up
03:57 🔗 nickname_ tfw https://i.imgur.com/7mmsd3H.png
03:57 🔗 nickname_ 20 months
03:57 🔗 tyzoid I move right back to youtube once it ended, plus I've got youtube red now
03:57 🔗 tyzoid I think youtube red killed it, in part
03:57 🔗 nickname_ i have regular old youtube
03:58 🔗 tyzoid Pretty much all vessel videos were on youtube anyway
03:58 🔗 tyzoid I can't recall of any content that wasn't already on youtube that wasn't on vessel
03:58 🔗 tyzoid A lot of youtubers used it as a way to release content earlier to paying viewers.
03:59 🔗 Blackout I know LinusTechTips posted early but I think that's about it
03:59 🔗 powerKitt Anyway, phuzion see if you can get your contact to add a public tracker to all the torrents. That way any user downloading a torrent will be seeding it publically as well.
03:59 🔗 tyzoid Anyone know if anyone's taken the virtualbox warrior machine and converted it to a vagrant box?
03:59 🔗 tyzoid if not, would that be worthwhile to do?
04:00 🔗 tyzoid I wasn't able to find much from a cursory google search
04:00 🔗 powerKitt -shrug- go for it if you want.
04:01 🔗 nickname_ archive myspleen
04:01 🔗 tyzoid I know this isn't archive.org, but perhaps someone knows this: The software archive contains a bunch of old software, but is there any use for more modern software packages?
04:01 🔗 tyzoid I happen to run an arch linux package mirror, so I could help get some open source binary packages on there.
04:02 🔗 nickname_ you could make a mirror if you want
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04:22 🔗 Blackout Ok I remember how I first heard of archive team now
04:22 🔗 Blackout it was isoHunt!
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04:53 🔗 powerKitt Blackout: Nice. I think I heard of the AT when I was looking up geocities info.
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08:29 🔗 SketchCow FOS appears to have gone down.
08:31 🔗 kurt my uploads to the archive s3 have stopped - more widespread network issues?
08:33 🔗 godane i was having trouble all night with s3
08:33 🔗 godane good to know its not just mee
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14:51 🔗 phuzion SketchCow: I'll be obtaining a ZIP of all of the .torrents from ScienceHD, we cool to push 42TB to IA?
14:54 🔗 joepie91 lol
15:00 🔗 kurt what does a 42tb .zip look like
15:01 🔗 phuzion It's not a 42TB ZIP
15:01 🔗 phuzion It's a ZIP with .torrents, and the .torrents will download 42 TB of data.
15:02 🔗 kurt ah, yeah I misread that bit
15:02 🔗 kurt that makes a little more sense
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15:16 🔗 joepie91 "a little"
15:16 🔗 joepie91 :P
15:30 🔗 phuzion Someone wanna make a channel for the ScienceHD project?
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16:18 🔗 SketchCow Explain ScienceHD to me
16:19 🔗 xmc it's some torrent site that's closing
16:19 🔗 SketchCow (Found it)
16:19 🔗 xmc you're welcome
16:19 🔗 SketchCow Berzap
16:19 🔗 SketchCow https://opentrackers.org/sciencehd/ at least explained to me
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16:38 🔗 phuzion Oh hi. So, as far as what it is, yeah, it's a bittorrent tracker with a bunch of scientific material.
16:38 🔗 phuzion I've spoken to some of the staff there, and they said that they would be willing to provide us an archive of all of their .torrent files.
16:39 🔗 phuzion One staff member wants to discuss this stuff with us a bit more, but doesn't want to do so in a publicly logged channel
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17:29 🔗 JW_work This really is a pretty thing, indeed: http://gilbertsinnott.com/theshapeofdeathtocome/
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17:33 🔗 johtso Is anyone on this? https://blog.snipt.net/snipt-is-closing/
17:37 🔗 Blackout johtso: so those are code snippets?
17:39 🔗 powerKitt Yeah. They're provided in raw format. Public snipts seem to be indexed all the way back to 9 years and 5 months ago.
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17:40 🔗 arkiver nice
17:41 🔗 powerKit2 https://snipt.net/raw/49f71e74a84550f34d0690ce5990e52b/ example snipt, the oldest public one.
17:41 🔗 powerKit2 https://snipt.net/public/?page=2599 last page of results
17:42 🔗 JW_work can that just be thrown in archivebot?
17:42 🔗 arkiver archivebot should be good enough
17:42 🔗 arkiver yeah
17:42 🔗 arkiver it's in
17:43 🔗 arkiver let's create a channel for codebender
17:43 🔗 powerKit2 http://nicksergeant.com/from-html-mockup-to-a-full-drupal-site-a-tutorial-part-i-introduction-and-installation/ there are snipts that appear to be somewhat on offsite domains
17:44 🔗 powerKit2 https://snipt.net/raw/75d55869130a96ea7547221f7bcb6091/?nice corresponding snipt "Raw Nice"
17:47 🔗 Aoede #codeblender ?
17:48 🔗 powerKit2 I grabbed a git clone --mirror of the site's github repository.
17:48 🔗 powerKit2 Is tar or zip preferred when uploading compressed files to archive.org?
17:50 🔗 xmc for a repository? check out 'git bundle'
17:50 🔗 xmc zip is better than tar.gz because you can live browse it
17:50 🔗 powerKit2 Oh, okay.
17:50 🔗 xmc (in general)
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17:55 🔗 Yoshimura You can live browse tar with index a good tool.
17:56 🔗 xmc not if its gzip'd
17:56 🔗 Yoshimura Well, if it is the kind of tar that is composed of compressed segments.
17:56 🔗 powerKit2 Uploading....
17:56 🔗 Yoshimura If it's non-solid you can.
17:56 🔗 powerKit2 https://archive.org/details/Nicksergeantsnipt.git feel free to tell me if I should do it a different way.
17:57 🔗 xmc Yoshimura: this is why you are on shitlist. i know how things are implemented and am responding based on reality. you are responding with hypothetical "you could do X" turbo-nerd shit.
17:57 🔗 Yoshimura xmc: then archivebot, warc how you do it, and megawarc is shit.
17:57 🔗 Yoshimura That's how it works.
17:58 🔗 xmc what?
17:58 🔗 Frogging >.>
17:58 🔗 powerKit2 I'm confuesd
17:58 🔗 xmc powerKit2: when uploading to IA for web serving, using a .zip is best for a collection of files
17:58 🔗 Yoshimura It takes gzip packed files and contatenates them toggether adding tar headers and tar block padding.
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17:58 🔗 Yoshimura xmc: ^
17:58 🔗 powerKit2 Alright, so I didn't fuck it up. good to know.
17:59 🔗 xmc Yoshimura: you're wrong and it's complicated and i have actual useful things to do that don't involve arguing with you
17:59 🔗 Yoshimura I am not wrong on this.
17:59 🔗 xmc go ahead and think that
17:59 🔗 Frogging there's no tar involved in WARCs
17:59 🔗 Yoshimura In megawarcs.
18:00 🔗 xmc i recommended powerKit2 use zip because it is natively non-solid and ships with an index
18:00 🔗 xmc you can do that with tar and gzip and tooling but that's way too much work, also it's confusing to end-users
18:00 🔗 xmc like, the people who will download it in future
18:00 🔗 Yoshimura I did not oppose that. I just said with tar you can too.
18:01 🔗 powerKit2 ( fyi: powerKitt is also me, I just didn't want to bump my phone off efnet. )
18:01 🔗 xmc powerKit2: yeah, no worries, that's pretty clear
18:01 🔗 powerKit2 Alright, thanks. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any confusion :)
18:01 🔗 Yoshimura But sure, tag me with shit. Why not.
18:02 🔗 Kaz -bs
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19:25 🔗 Selavi phuzion, awesome. I was really hoping I didn't have to make a scraper to grab all the torrents
19:25 🔗 phuzion Selavi: Do you wanna head up this project? I'm a bit swamped with IRL shit right now.
19:28 🔗 Selavi phuzion, I can do a bit. I'm not very familiar with AT routines yet though
19:28 🔗 phuzion Alright
19:29 🔗 arkiver phuzion: how is the metadata?
19:29 🔗 Selavi currently, I'm mostly wondering if they wouldn't mind me sharing my account with fellow folks to grab more quickly
19:29 🔗 arkiver phuzion: do you think you can also get the page webpage of a torrent saved?
19:29 🔗 arkiver to extract metadata
19:30 🔗 Selavi but if they're willing to talk to us, that's a great start
19:30 🔗 phuzion arkiver: if someone gets a channel going, I can possibly get a staff member in there to chat with us regarding the project
19:30 🔗 arkiver ok
19:30 🔗 phuzion I just don't have the bandwidth right now to coordinate a project
19:31 🔗 arkiver Hmm
19:31 🔗 Selavi and I only have 2.5TB free until I get my next server built
19:32 🔗 arkiver #scienceld ?
19:32 🔗 arkiver Please join that ^
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