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raiden0x1 |
Would the archiveteam accept an interview request sometime? |
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joepie91 |
raiden0x1: archiveteam is very much organized ad-hoc, so it's possible that there's somebody who is willing to do an interview, but there's not really a spokesperson (other than SketchCow, who is the most Not A Spokesperson :P) |
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joepie91 |
raiden0x1: in the past interviews were usually done with either SketchCow or with specific people involved in a specific project that the interview was about |
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xmc |
some of us (such as me) recommend against giving interviews |
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joepie91 |
(I don't recommend against giving interviews, but I do feel that they need to be given with care :P) |
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xmc |
ever since the fucks from the mit tech review interviewed us in bad faith ... |
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Kaz |
I nominate chatter29 |
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xmc |
who? |
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Kaz |
allah-bot |
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sagitaire |
questions sent in advance, goal is to introduce the team to the public, as you are all aware of archive.org is respected and is sort of the Internet's library |
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xmc |
we are not archive.org |
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sagitaire |
i know |
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sagitaire |
but wouldnt more publicity add more authenticity to what you do? |
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xmc |
also will you please pick one name and stick with it? or if you flip between two names, make them at least similar? |
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xmc |
authenticity? |
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sagitaire |
i'm not here in bad faith, just using a different lab (yes same in PM) |
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xmc |
oh i know. it's just confusing |
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sagitaire |
but ok, understood the interview guidelines |
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joepie91 |
xmc: wait, which interview was that |
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xmc |
uh, idk, i've blocked it out |
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xmc |
like 2010 2011 sort of era |
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joepie91 |
ah |
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joepie91 |
while ago then |
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joepie91 has experience dealing with tricky interviews, fwiw |
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joepie91 |
sagitaire: keep in mind that the goal of ArchiveTeam isn't "authenticity" in the public perception; if it's there, it's nice, but the first and foremost goal is to get things saved as fast, accurately, and correctly as possible... as a result, "giving it more authenticity" isn't exactly the best selling point towards people here :P |
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joepie91 |
or, more succinctly: "if pissing people off to save a thing is needed, that's what will happen" |
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xmc |
ok i have the bittorrent data that sagitaire/raiden0x1 was talking about other day, and it's on its way to IA |
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joepie91 |
while I do think that good-faith exposure of ArchiveTeam *can* be beneficial, I'd say that the focus should be on making people aware of the reason it exists in the first place (eg. the lackluster way in which organizations deal with user data), and perhaps attracting people who have time/effort/etc. to contribute towards keeping things going |
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joepie91 |
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xmc |
yep |
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joepie91 |
(any further rambles should probably go to #archiveteam-bs) |
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kevinr |
mit tech are fuckers, i mean, fyi |
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we should archive the NSA and just laugh at them |
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xmc |
https://archive.org/details/some_bittorrent_siterips |
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Burak |
Hi! Can AT archive Kenai.com? "The Kenai.com site will be closing permanently on April 28, 2017.", it's a collaborative hosting site for free and open source projects, launched by Sun Microsystems and now owned by Oracle. |
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FalconK |
Burak: it's not optimal, but I can start a crawl to put much of it into the wayback machine... |
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voltagex |
goddamnit. http://www.imdb.com/board/announcement |
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PurpleSym |
voltagex: /join #imdbgone |
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voltagex |
"Resource Limit Is Reached The website is temporarily unable to service your request as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later." |
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voltagex |
also sigh: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13571977 |
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voltagex |
here's a very difficult one to save: https://www.nintendo.com.au/support/nintendo-dsi-shop-discontinuation-faq |
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godane |
i put the nintendo page in archivebot |
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voltagex |
godane: yeah... just thousands of binaries that cost money about to disappear... |
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godane |
there is not much i can do about that |
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godane |
i know the no-intro people are looking into it |
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godane |
to see what games they don't have |
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godane |
i think they got most of them |
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godane |
http://forums.no-intro.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2862&sid=f12a784d4da2d301c0292c51860870e6 |
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voltagex |
I'm in AUS which apparently has no info |
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voltagex |
so I hope they activate my forum account in time for me to get in contact |
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whydomain |
From support.mozilla.org: "NOTICE: We are currently in the process of migrating the site. This means that any new content that is posted will NOT be moved. This includes knowledge base edits, and changes to user profile information. We've prepared a plan to migrate forum messages that are created/answered while we finish the migration. We expect the migration to be complete on February 6th. Apologies for the inconvenience and thank you |
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whydomain |
for your patience. " |
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whydomain |
Is it *really* that hard to move over recent stuff? |
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whydomain: it's clearly too hard to 'lock' it during migration o_O |
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maxogden |
question about https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons, are the 971 items in this collection the sum of all of the wikimedia commons? is each item just the incremental output from some daily crawl? |
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rocode |
maxogden, the item title gives you the date it was grabbed. |
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maxogden |
rocode: im trying to understand the relationship between the items, is each item part of a large one time crawl of the commons? because the 'official' enwiki media dumps from around that era are 2tb http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/wikimedia/imagedumps/tarballs/fulls/20121201/ but according to the torrent item here |
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maxogden |
https://archive.org/download/wikimediacommons-torrents the cumulative size of all those torrents is only ~300gb |
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rocode |
maxogden, https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons-201303 as the description states, this item, for example, is all images uploaded during the month of March in 2013. |
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rocode |
maxogden, that item I linked is over 600gb. |
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rocode |
You will have better luck using the torrent file from each item instead of the torrents item. |
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maxogden |
rocode: ah ok thanks |
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maxogden |
got it, so seems like the Wikimedia Commons Grab is currently working through the wikimedia upload backlog day by day and is currently caught up to in 2015, but publishing less than 1 a day on average so may never catch up at current rate |
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typicallu |
Hi all, I found my way here after watching some talks by Jason Scott |
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rocode |
typicallu, hi! Please use #archiveteam-bs if you have any questions. |
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pizzaiolo |
curious: what is this channel for? |
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nightpool |
mostly announcements and stuff |
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