#archiveteam 2017-02-05,Sun

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00:26 🔗 raiden0x1 Would the archiveteam accept an interview request sometime?
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00:32 🔗 joepie91 raiden0x1: archiveteam is very much organized ad-hoc, so it's possible that there's somebody who is willing to do an interview, but there's not really a spokesperson (other than SketchCow, who is the most Not A Spokesperson :P)
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00:34 🔗 joepie91 raiden0x1: in the past interviews were usually done with either SketchCow or with specific people involved in a specific project that the interview was about
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00:36 🔗 xmc some of us (such as me) recommend against giving interviews
00:39 🔗 joepie91 (I don't recommend against giving interviews, but I do feel that they need to be given with care :P)
00:40 🔗 xmc ever since the fucks from the mit tech review interviewed us in bad faith ...
00:42 🔗 Kaz I nominate chatter29
00:42 🔗 xmc who?
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00:43 🔗 Kaz allah-bot
00:45 🔗 sagitaire questions sent in advance, goal is to introduce the team to the public, as you are all aware of archive.org is respected and is sort of the Internet's library
00:45 🔗 xmc we are not archive.org
00:45 🔗 sagitaire i know
00:46 🔗 sagitaire but wouldnt more publicity add more authenticity to what you do?
00:46 🔗 xmc also will you please pick one name and stick with it? or if you flip between two names, make them at least similar?
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00:46 🔗 xmc authenticity?
00:46 🔗 sagitaire i'm not here in bad faith, just using a different lab (yes same in PM)
00:46 🔗 xmc oh i know. it's just confusing
00:47 🔗 sagitaire but ok, understood the interview guidelines
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02:31 🔗 joepie91 xmc: wait, which interview was that
02:31 🔗 xmc uh, idk, i've blocked it out
02:31 🔗 xmc like 2010 2011 sort of era
02:31 🔗 joepie91 ah
02:31 🔗 joepie91 while ago then
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02:31 🔗 * joepie91 has experience dealing with tricky interviews, fwiw
02:32 🔗 joepie91 sagitaire: keep in mind that the goal of ArchiveTeam isn't "authenticity" in the public perception; if it's there, it's nice, but the first and foremost goal is to get things saved as fast, accurately, and correctly as possible... as a result, "giving it more authenticity" isn't exactly the best selling point towards people here :P
02:33 🔗 joepie91 or, more succinctly: "if pissing people off to save a thing is needed, that's what will happen"
02:34 🔗 xmc ok i have the bittorrent data that sagitaire/raiden0x1 was talking about other day, and it's on its way to IA
02:34 🔗 joepie91 while I do think that good-faith exposure of ArchiveTeam *can* be beneficial, I'd say that the focus should be on making people aware of the reason it exists in the first place (eg. the lackluster way in which organizations deal with user data), and perhaps attracting people who have time/effort/etc. to contribute towards keeping things going
02:34 🔗 joepie91 </mini-ramble>
02:34 🔗 xmc yep
02:34 🔗 joepie91 (any further rambles should probably go to #archiveteam-bs)
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04:58 🔗 kevinr mit tech are fuckers, i mean, fyi
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05:00 🔗 qwebirc98 we should archive the NSA and just laugh at them
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06:43 🔗 xmc https://archive.org/details/some_bittorrent_siterips
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08:19 🔗 Burak Hi! Can AT archive Kenai.com? "The Kenai.com site will be closing permanently on April 28, 2017.", it's a collaborative hosting site for free and open source projects, launched by Sun Microsystems and now owned by Oracle.
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09:30 🔗 FalconK Burak: it's not optimal, but I can start a crawl to put much of it into the wayback machine...
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11:55 🔗 voltagex goddamnit. http://www.imdb.com/board/announcement
11:56 🔗 PurpleSym voltagex: /join #imdbgone
12:02 🔗 voltagex "Resource Limit Is Reached The website is temporarily unable to service your request as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later."
12:08 🔗 voltagex also sigh: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13571977
12:19 🔗 voltagex here's a very difficult one to save: https://www.nintendo.com.au/support/nintendo-dsi-shop-discontinuation-faq
12:20 🔗 godane i put the nintendo page in archivebot
12:21 🔗 voltagex godane: yeah... just thousands of binaries that cost money about to disappear...
12:21 🔗 godane there is not much i can do about that
12:21 🔗 godane i know the no-intro people are looking into it
12:21 🔗 godane to see what games they don't have
12:22 🔗 godane i think they got most of them
12:22 🔗 godane http://forums.no-intro.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2862&sid=f12a784d4da2d301c0292c51860870e6
12:25 🔗 voltagex I'm in AUS which apparently has no info
12:25 🔗 voltagex so I hope they activate my forum account in time for me to get in contact
12:26 🔗 whydomain From support.mozilla.org: "NOTICE: We are currently in the process of migrating the site. This means that any new content that is posted will NOT be moved. This includes knowledge base edits, and changes to user profile information. We've prepared a plan to migrate forum messages that are created/answered while we finish the migration. We expect the migration to be complete on February 6th. Apologies for the inconvenience and thank you
12:26 🔗 whydomain for your patience. "
12:27 🔗 whydomain Is it *really* that hard to move over recent stuff?
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16:29 🔗 SmileyG whydomain: it's clearly too hard to 'lock' it during migration o_O
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18:23 🔗 maxogden question about https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons, are the 971 items in this collection the sum of all of the wikimedia commons? is each item just the incremental output from some daily crawl?
18:25 🔗 rocode maxogden, the item title gives you the date it was grabbed.
18:28 🔗 maxogden rocode: im trying to understand the relationship between the items, is each item part of a large one time crawl of the commons? because the 'official' enwiki media dumps from around that era are 2tb http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/wikimedia/imagedumps/tarballs/fulls/20121201/ but according to the torrent item here
18:28 🔗 maxogden https://archive.org/download/wikimediacommons-torrents the cumulative size of all those torrents is only ~300gb
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18:31 🔗 rocode maxogden, https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons-201303 as the description states, this item, for example, is all images uploaded during the month of March in 2013.
18:33 🔗 rocode maxogden, that item I linked is over 600gb.
18:34 🔗 rocode You will have better luck using the torrent file from each item instead of the torrents item.
18:34 🔗 maxogden rocode: ah ok thanks
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18:44 🔗 maxogden got it, so seems like the Wikimedia Commons Grab is currently working through the wikimedia upload backlog day by day and is currently caught up to in 2015, but publishing less than 1 a day on average so may never catch up at current rate
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22:55 🔗 typicallu Hi all, I found my way here after watching some talks by Jason Scott
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23:00 🔗 rocode typicallu, hi! Please use #archiveteam-bs if you have any questions.
23:02 🔗 pizzaiolo curious: what is this channel for?
23:03 🔗 nightpool mostly announcements and stuff
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