[00:03] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam [00:04] *** alex____ has joined #archiveteam [00:04] *** alex___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:09] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam [00:16] *** Rai-chan has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [00:27] *** Soni has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:31] *** alex____ has quit IRC (Quit: take care ye all. Have fun!) [00:39] *** Soni has joined #archiveteam [00:40] *** FalconK has joined #archiveteam [01:03] *** drumstick has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [01:04] *** w0rp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:05] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam [01:06] *** Rai-chan has joined #archiveteam [01:07] *** w0rp has joined #archiveteam [01:07] *** icedice2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [01:11] *** tuluu has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:13] *** tuluu has joined #archiveteam [01:16] *** drumstick has joined #archiveteam [01:21] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam [01:24] https://boingboing.net/2017/11/14/phone-companies-are-the-worst.html [01:24] https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down [01:55] *** w0rp has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:22] *** username1 has joined #archiveteam [02:25] *** schbirid2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:46] *** w0rp has joined #archiveteam [03:04] *** Soni has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [03:08] *** Soni has joined #archiveteam [03:10] *** Odd0002 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [03:15] *** Odd0002 has joined #archiveteam [03:29] *** icedice2 has joined #archiveteam [03:29] *** bithippo has joined #archiveteam [03:31] Archiveteam project for the compuserve forums closing Dec 15? https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down [03:32] http://member.compuserve.com/forum_center/ [03:34] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [03:36] *** icedice has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:43] *** drumstick has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:11] *** Dockerson has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:20] bithippo: we're on it, but additional help untangling the Javascript would be welcome. I don't think there's a channel yet. [04:20] Also, please make a wiki page if you've got the time. [04:24] I just finished grabbing all of it using grab site (/forum_center and /discussions). [04:25] bithippo: Wondrerful! Please upload it to IA. [04:25] How large is it? [04:26] ~2GB [04:26] 200930492 Nov 14 23:20 member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-1e0ef872-00000.warc.gz [04:26] Grabbed offsite links, etc. [04:27] <3 [04:27] Let me toss the wpull.log up somewhere to share [04:29] Please toss the *whole thing* up on IA, as soon as you can. [04:29] And/or dump it on a torrent and I'll seed it. [04:30] Will be back with an item URL shortly. Standby! [04:30] (If javascript eval is/was required, that's not included and there is more work to be done) [04:30] Somebody2: you know about the IA .torrent upload process, right? :) [04:34] Misspoke. 200MB not 2GB, IA item uploading, parsing the wpull log to double check I got everything I intended to get. [04:37] *** icedice2 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [04:39] astrid: yep! [04:40] kool [04:42] I just don't feel comfortable uploading stuff to IA myself, because I don't want to be responsible for maintaining it forever afterward. [04:43] ok [04:46] If/when IA adds the ability to orphan uploads (see https://archiveofourown.org/faq/orphaning?language_id=en ) for explanation, I'll gladly use it. [04:48] you can have the owner changed to someone else, but it requires manual intervention from IA [04:49] ----------------------------------------- [04:49] FOS IS NOW A NEW MACHINE IP FOR THE NAME [04:49] THINGS MIGHT BREAK, WE'LL WORK IT OUT [04:49] ----------------------------------------- [04:50] Yeah, and I don't like to bother them unncessarily. [04:51] fair enough. ---> #archiveteam-bs if this conversation continues [04:56] https://archive.org/details/member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-warc-archive [04:59] *** qw3rty16 has joined #archiveteam [05:00] I'll ingest it aftr [05:00] i'm only seeing 7000 urls in that warc, hm. [05:01] I checked for obvious paths I might be missing, didn't see any. [05:02] looks like the web forum thingy doesn't really go back into deep archives [05:02] or not reachable by wget-like tools at least [05:02] Ick. Sorry for the bother then. I'll make a note to dive in this weekend. [05:03] oh, no worries! [05:03] this is a good start :) [05:03] URL discoverability is hard ಥ⌣ಥ [05:04] yeah and it doesn't seem to really want to let you diddle the numbers and get other posts [05:04] I suppose.....I could just ask for the archives as a tarball? [05:04] Doesn't help on the WARC front unfortuantely. [05:05] *** qw3rty15 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:05] it's worth an ask for sure [05:05] this forum started before the web was a thing so even the warc isn't "original" in some sense :P [05:06] 'Tis old as time itself. [05:08] I think a good next step I'll try is to get a list of deep links using Google's results from other sites pointing in as starting points if enumeration isn't going to work. [05:12] Thank you everyone for the help! [05:13] there's little nav arrows at the top of each thread-view page, but you can't navigate outside the most recent 28 days or so [05:13] if you edit the thread id number in the url, it has to match the forum name in the url or you get an error [05:15] "If you need someone with a Fullscreen subscription(they are closing, its $6/mo) I.m the man but I may need some help figuring out the downloading of originals video series. Sorry I.m just not that savvy with downloading video. Just thought I.d let you know. #ArchiveTeam" [05:15] oh but if you change the dropdown in the forum view thinger to "all", you get to cruise back to (i assume) the beginning of time [05:17] maybe it'd be as simple as setting the cookie that stores this value to "all" and then sucking it in with wpull? [05:17] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:19] hm, i'm still not getting anything older than 2004 at the earliest, and most of it cuts off somewhere around 2010 (+- 5 years) [05:19] @astrid What's the request look like in your browser's dev tools when forum viewer is set to "all"? [05:20] i haven't gotten that far yet [05:20] it's actually time for me to go home and sleep, the cafe is about to close and it's near bedtime :P [05:22] Night! Safe travels home. [05:26] *** bithippo has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [05:27] *** MMovie2 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:42] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [07:00] *** ndurner has joined #archiveteam [07:04] Wasted efforts. :-( Again, https://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums. [07:09] *** Atom__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:23] *** ndurner has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:34] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam [08:00] *** robink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:05] *** robink has joined #archiveteam [08:06] things with NCIX seem to be getting a bit more dire according to that ex-insider dude that's been frequenting /r/bapcsalescanada over the last little while [08:07] apparently a Canada Computers expansion location in BC seems to be exactly where one of NCIX's retail stores currently is [08:07] I'll gather some more stuff overnight and tomorrow and dump in -BS but I think after black friday/cyber monday we should get a move on [08:28] *** icedice has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [08:33] *** atomotic has joined #archiveteam [08:54] *** chirlu has quit IRC (Bye) [09:03] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 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[16:19] Awesome. Was looking for a project but great to hear! [16:20] There might be a warrior project later on. We're grabbing it with ArchiveBot right now, but we're not sure whether that will actually grab everything. [16:21] Cool. Can help with whatever there. [16:29] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:47] JAA - will it be announced in here when it becomes a warrior project? or #warrior ? [16:48] LastNinja: I'll make sure it gets mentioned here. [16:48] great thanks =) [17:29] *** ZexaronS has joined #archiveteam [17:37] *** Mayonaise has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:38] *** Mayonaise has joined #archiveteam [17:40] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (pizzaiolo) [17:41] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam [17:44] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:45] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam [17:54] *** Morbus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [18:02] *** Morbus has joined #archiveteam [18:02] *** Morbus has quit IRC (Connection closed) [18:02] *** Morbus has joined #archiveteam [18:20] *** Soni has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:20] *** ndurner has joined #archiveteam [18:22] Can someone reset my password on the wiki? [18:23] *** Soni has joined #archiveteam [18:31] *** alfie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:41] *** alfie has joined #archiveteam [18:49] *** MrDignity has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:52] *** masterX24 has joined #archiveteam [18:53] caught a news for the deathwatch: http://forums.compuserve.com/discussions/Windows_Support/ws-winsupport? [18:53] compuserve forums being nuked on 15th. (forum center link at top links to the "hubpage" listing the "root categories" but no message on that page) [18:58] We’re on it. Can someone update the /topic? [19:07] *** joepie91 changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | Yes, we know about the Compuserve forums [19:09] woudln't have asked here if the wiki would have information on the forums. i checked the wiki before hopping on [19:10] I cannot log in to the Wiki, in the meantime there is ttps://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums (among other efforts) [19:10] *** Valentine has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:16] *** Soni has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:17] *** Valentine has joined #archiveteam [19:24] *** Soni has joined #archiveteam [19:25] *** jschwart has joined #archiveteam [19:27] started a wiki page for compuserve forums. http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=CompuServe_Forums [19:32] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:45] *** masterX24 has left [19:59] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam [20:03] is there a compuserve channel yet [20:03] if not maybe #compuswerve [20:07] comburnerve [20:10] thanks Sanqui! [20:12] WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD [20:13] pmd [20:17] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:27] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam [21:00] I'm on #compuswerve and have asked bigwebb about logging it [21:01] *** evan has joined #archiveteam [21:01] *** evan has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:07] *** atlogbot has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:08] *** atlogbot has joined #archiveteam [21:09] Starting to log #compuswerve now [21:09] op? [21:20] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (pizzaiolo) [21:20] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam [21:24] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:25] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam [21:41] *** jschwart has quit IRC (Konversation terminated!) 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