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JAA |
Reminder that the UOL forums (Brazilian equivalent to AOL) will go down on the 7th. There are ArchiveBot jobs for it (after the first ones crashed), but they won't finish in time... |
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guest |
say, does the internet archive still retroactively de-list sites that exclude it in robots.txt? |
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guest |
i thought it was supposed to have stopped that a while ago |
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guest |
i just found out that i'm unable to access the old truecrypt website because the *current* website excludes the IA user agent... |
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guest |
(i know you guys aren't archive.org, but i'd think you would know the answer since you're associated with them) |
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ivan_ |
if you're seeing "This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine." that's a manual exclusion |
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guest |
ivan_: it's being caused by robots.txt *retroactively* |
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guest |
i'm pretty sure it wasn't there when the site was first archived |
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JAA |
Well, then you have your answer: yes, they still do that. |
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guest |
so it's not being caused by manual exclusion via a dmca or something? it's definitely the fault of robots.txt? |
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ivan_ |
why not give us a link to the page you're looking at |
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JAA |
Pay attention to the error message. If it's what ivan_ wrote, then it's a manual exclusion due to a request by the website owner. If the error message mentions robots.txt, then it's robots.txt. |
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JAA |
www.truecrypt.org was excluded manually. |
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guest |
oh i thought manually meant via robots.txt explicitly specifying ia_archiver |
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JAA |
No, manual exclusion means that someone at the Internet Archive blocked that site in the Wayback Machine. |
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guest |
at the request of the site owner or by their own volution? |
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guest |
volition* |
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JAA |
The former. Or perhaps DMCA or similar. Certainly not just because they felt like doing it. |
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Somebody2 |
as I say over and over again -- if you want a to preserve something, keep a LOCAL copy of it, don't rely on any 3rd party |
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Somebody2 |
happily, that's still prettty straightforward to extract things from the Wayback Machine (one page at a time) |
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guest |
Somebody2: well this was brought about because i'm fixing link rot. thankfully i did find a copy at archive.fo but who knows if that archive site will last for long like IA |
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Somebody2 |
right, so *grab a local copy* (from archive.fo in this case) right now |
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Somebody2 |
and at a minimum, keep it locally |
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guest |
aight |
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Somebody2 |
if you chose to also distribute it various other places ... you probably shouldn't mention that here |
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Somebody2 |
but there are lots of places to post textual material |
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guest |
why would it be bad to mention if it were distributed to someone else? or do you mean like, distributed amongst many small redundant systems if i get what you're saying |
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guest |
it's just some html content and i'm pretty sure other people have copies too, so i'll just keep it on my local computer |
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Somebody2 |
the reason not to discuss it here is ... this channel has public logs, and is pretty well known. And the material in question has at least some people who don't want it distributed... |
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guest |
ah |
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guest |
well it's just the truecrypt web pages. not some kind of illicit porn or anything. |
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Somebody2 |
so it's best not to discuss where it might be made available in such well-known locations. |
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JAA |
Besides, this channel isn't for discussion anyway. |
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Somebody2 |
sure, but apparently the author of it (or someone associated with them) would prefer it not be distributed (at least not thru the wayback machine) |
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guest |
oah |
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*ah |
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JAA: ok sorry |
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Somebody2 |
whoops, right. Moving to #archiveteam-bs! |
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SketchCow |
AND HOW THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING |
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SketchCow |
Because I've been hit with dozens of privmessages from Brazillians |
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VoynichCr |
why |
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Kaz |
SketchCow: need access to the tumblr collection please, username kaz_ |
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SketchCow |
msg me the e-mail of the account |
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Nemo_bis |
"14.6 TB of residual data (5.8 million files) from more than 10 years of operation were deleted" http://www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4715014 |
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SketchCow |
=========================================== |
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SketchCow |
INTERNET ARCHIVE IS GOING MAINTENANCE TODAY |
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SketchCow |
Disruption is meant to be minimuzed but might not be |
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SketchCow |
It will affect a range of things, just keep an eye |
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SketchCow |
Starts shortly, will go on for a few hours |
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SketchCow |
=========================================== |
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yano |
SketchCow: is it over? or has it not started yet? |
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yano |
i found it, https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/1080871414389972992 |
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BartoCH |
yep, my archive crawler started to have troubles just now |
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yano |
BartoCH: mine is still working |
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SketchCow |
It's for two hours roughly |
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SketchCow |
It's still going on |
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SketchCow |
I'm having S3 explode |
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astrid |
oops sorry |
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JAA |
UOL Forums warrior project started. |
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SketchCow |
It should all be back now, by the way. |
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Wizzito |
okay, so i guess we're focusing on the uol forums rn? i see that it's on "warrior based projects" now |
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Wizzito |
So many 0/O.1 MBs on the UOL tracker |
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Wizzito |
We've done 2 GB so far, eh |
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JAA |
Wizzito: Come to #archiveteam-bs please. This channel is for announcements. |
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Wizzito |
Ohh okay |
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JAA |
It looks like the UOL Forums are just the tip of the iceberg. Grupo Abril, the parent company of UOL, was recently sold for a symbolic 100k Brazilian real (~27k USD) after amassing 1.6 billion real (~430 million USD) of debt. So there will likely be more service shutdowns soon. https://naaju.com/brazil/grupo-abril-is-sold-and-banks-and-employees-of-the-billionaire-by-default/ |
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JAA |
For starters, the blog platform at http://blog.uol.com.br/ is shutting down end of the month. |
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Wizzito |
oh boy, are we gonna archive that? |
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astrid |
-> #archiveteam-bs |
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Wizzito |
????? i cant post a response to anything without getting sent there smh |
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Wizzito |
ok |
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