#internetarchive 2019-02-14,Thu

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07:17 🔗 Phoen1x Okay, so if an item is distributed across two servers, can I send a HEAD request for each file in an item until I discover which two servers the data is on, and then assume the remaining files will be on those same servers?
07:21 🔗 ivan_ Phoen1x: yes
07:22 🔗 Phoen1x splendid
07:22 🔗 ivan_ note the process to copy to the other server might be asynchronous in some cases, it's a lot of janky rsync
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07:32 🔗 eientei95 [20:14:39] <astrid> i don't know an external way to find which servers hold an item. maybe in the xml or the logs in the item, but that sounds fragile and undocumented.
07:32 🔗 eientei95 https://archive.org/metadata/<identifier>
07:33 🔗 eientei95 d1 and d2 give you the servers
07:34 🔗 eientei95 or possibly the workable_servers
07:39 🔗 Phoen1x Oh hell yeah
07:40 🔗 Phoen1x And it includes a file list
07:40 🔗 Phoen1x This is perfect
07:50 🔗 Kaz Is there a list of pages for each item.. obviously metadata, details, manage etc exist, but I'm sure there's more
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07:55 🔗 Phoen1x There are references to them scattered throughout these docs, but I haven't found a list https://archive.org/services/docs/api/metadata.html
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08:03 🔗 SketchCow STILL HERE
08:06 🔗 Kaz reposting for possible info..
08:06 🔗 Kaz <Kaz> Is there a list of pages for each item.. obviously metadata, details, manage etc exist, but I'm sure there's more
08:07 🔗 SketchCow The question makes zero sense to me.
08:07 🔗 Kaz https://archive.org/history/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20181202110001 exists
08:07 🔗 Phoen1x https://archive.org/metadata/TheAdventuresOfTomSawyer_201303
08:07 🔗 Kaz https://archive.org/metadata/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20181202110001 exists
08:07 🔗 SketchCow Ah
08:08 🔗 Kaz what else can I put where history/metadata are, and get a valid page
08:08 🔗 SketchCow "Are the billion and a half pages documented."
08:08 🔗 Kaz I thought that might be the case
08:08 🔗 SketchCow What do youuuuuu think
08:08 🔗 Kaz Can't hurt to ask!
08:08 🔗 SketchCow It can't.
08:08 🔗 SketchCow One of my internal proposals was for an outward facing moderated wiki
08:08 🔗 SketchCow Shot down
08:09 🔗 SketchCow Closest is we have a Zendesk account now.
08:09 🔗 Phoen1x I was hoping the most important archive on the planet would have their documentation not on the 'dumpster fire' end of the quality scale
08:09 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, well.
08:09 🔗 SketchCow Wait until you find out what happens to recycled cans
08:10 🔗 SketchCow https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us
08:16 🔗 SketchCow any other complaints?
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08:21 🔗 Phoen1x How about "2 minutes is not long enough to wait for a response on IRC"
08:22 🔗 Phoen1x >(~jscott@208.86.224.90)
08:22 🔗 Phoen1x ...Am I misunderstanding something, or did I just shit on IA to the guy who runs it
08:24 🔗 Fusl Phoen1x: you just did
08:24 🔗 Phoen1x fuck
08:24 🔗 Fusl run.
08:27 🔗 Kaz well, he doesn't run it..
08:30 🔗 Fusl "Free-Range Archivist & Software Curator" is "who runs it" enough
08:33 🔗 Phoen1x He has 27 thousand twitter followers. I am legally required to fear his power.
08:34 🔗 hook54321 No one single person runs all of it
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15:00 🔗 astrid lol
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