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15:41 🔗 Nemo_bis Do torrents need to be remade after shuffle? https://catalogd.archive.org/history/wikipedia_visitor_stats_200801
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17:37 🔗 Martini Hi.
17:38 🔗 Martini Just curious about the Book Drive (When you donate a book to the Internet Archive). I know it is free, and you can not expect deadlines, but how long (estimated) does it take a book to be scanned if it is donated that way?
18:21 🔗 SketchCow Nemo_bis: Ops please
18:21 🔗 SketchCow It can take years for a book to be scanned
18:21 🔗 SketchCow Assuming it's unique
18:21 🔗 SketchCow There are plans to ramp the scanning from roughly 300,000 a year to millions
18:22 🔗 xmc Martini: also if it's not public domain it may not be visible for a long time.
18:22 🔗 xmc i recommend you scan it yourself if you need it, you can always upload the scans to IA
18:22 🔗 xmc i've done this many times and can provide guidance to make a usable scan
19:50 🔗 Martini xmc, what do you recommend for scan. I don't have all the stuff that the IA has and with a flat bed scanner it is not nice to scan a book :)
20:15 🔗 xmc 600 dpi, full color
20:16 🔗 xmc tiff if you have the space, maximum quality jpeg otherwise
20:16 🔗 xmc flatbed is unfortunately the way to do it
20:19 🔗 Martini xmc: I haven't found any domestic technique to scan books that is on my budget. Specially for thick softcover books.
20:22 🔗 xmc what is your budget
20:27 🔗 Martini $100.
20:27 🔗 Martini :)
20:30 🔗 Martini What about this kind of scanners. Does it really works? https://www.amazon.com/Ipevo-Ziggi-HD-High-Definition-Document-CDVU-06IP/dp/B01530XGMA/
20:30 🔗 xmc i would not trust it
20:30 🔗 Martini It is not like I'm trying to scan a historical document. Just something that can be read.
20:31 🔗 xmc are you doing this a lot
20:31 🔗 xmc how much do you care about the physical document
20:31 🔗 xmc is it rare, what is it
20:33 🔗 Martini It is not rare or historical.
20:34 🔗 Martini I want to do it with some five books.
20:35 🔗 xmc well given your constraints you have some shitty options
20:35 🔗 xmc 1. flat bed scanner + 5 hours of flipping the book over and over
20:36 🔗 xmc 2. digital camera on some kind of holder, which is what that wing thing is
20:36 🔗 xmc 3. hire a copy/print shop to do #1
20:36 🔗 xmc 4. guillotine the spine off and use a sheetfeeder
20:38 🔗 Martini I think it can be interesting #2.
20:38 🔗 xmc that is the lowest quality
20:38 🔗 xmc now to be fair
20:38 🔗 Martini I will check for that "wing thing" or somekind of tripod arm.
20:38 🔗 xmc i scanned a 300 page book in 90 minutes with #1
20:39 🔗 xmc i was talking about the ziggi widget
20:39 🔗 Martini The issue with #1 is that I need a bigger flatbed scanner.
20:39 🔗 xmc you can scan page at a time instead of spread at a time
20:40 🔗 xmc the big constraint in that is time per scan
20:45 🔗 Martini Any recommendations on the scan software?
20:47 🔗 xmc vuescan is good i think
20:54 🔗 Martini I will also give it a try. Thanks
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