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17:42 🔗 Raccoon Can someone explain this bit about Collections downloads to me? Under "Download Options" there is 'SHOW ALL' on the left column, and then '144 Files' and '39 Original' on the right column. Where can I find the button for 'SHOW ONLY ORIGINAL' so I don't have to guess which 39 files those are?
17:42 🔗 Raccoon I almost never want to downlaod the auto-generated files that Archive.org creates.
18:02 🔗 JAA You mean items, not collections, right?
18:02 🔗 JAA I haven't seen a way to filter for original files on the web interface, but I think you can do it with the CLI.
18:03 🔗 JAA Raccoon: ^
18:07 🔗 Raccoon JAA, i see. And if I click the '39 Original' it will definitely download exactly the files that the author uploaded?
18:07 🔗 JAA Raccoon: Yeah, it should, as a ZIP file.
18:07 🔗 Raccoon Because the CGI variables are concerning
18:08 🔗 Raccoon ie: https://archive.org/compress/KipmIlluminatiPrimaMateria-AlanMaxwellPirateShortwave/formats=VBR%20MP3,ARCHIVE%20BITTORRENT,METADATA,ITEM%20TILE
18:08 🔗 JAA Hm
18:08 🔗 Raccoon that suggests meddling, not bit-perfect author's original
18:09 🔗 Raccoon via https://archive.org/details/KipmIlluminatiPrimaMateria-AlanMaxwellPirateShortwave
18:10 🔗 JAA Yeah, that seems odd.
18:11 🔗 Raccoon I wonder if all the conversion formats shouldn't be deleted off the site, and only served up as an on-demand converter service feature.
18:11 🔗 Raccoon given how encoders are prone to improvement over the generations
18:11 🔗 Raccoon and decoders
18:11 🔗 JAA Turns out that `ia download` doesn't directly have a filter for only originals, it seems.
18:12 🔗 JAA I'm sure they've considered doing that. You'd need caching, then it might not be possible to save the transcoded files on the original item server, so everything gets much more complicated.
18:13 🔗 Raccoon like an "email me when done" if it's more than a 20 second operation
18:14 🔗 Raccoon shrug. just blovating out loud
18:15 🔗 JAA Well yeah, that's another thing, it'd slow down access.
18:16 🔗 Raccoon free up exabytes of harddrive space to buy more GPU/FPGA cards :)
18:18 🔗 Raccoon I'm rather curious if this particular collection isn't just an upsample of the long existing 128 Kbit MP3s that were being hosted on the pirate shortwave radio sites last decade.
18:19 🔗 Raccoon Same file names, but 320 Kbit I'd never before seen
18:19 🔗 JAA Analyse it with Audacity or similar, should be very obvious.
18:20 🔗 Raccoon aye
18:20 🔗 Raccoon slow downloading
18:20 🔗 JAA As is tradition. :-)
18:28 🔗 Raccoon go too fast and it might garble the bits
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18:59 🔗 JAA Raccoon: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/issues/365
19:01 🔗 Raccoon :o thanks
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