#jsmess 2017-06-06,Tue

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12:43 🔗 JohnTalen I'm getting the sneaky suspicioun the authors of both vice.js and v86 want you to contact them. no ./configure.in for vice.js and no windows images are loadable by v86. Next step is to see what it would take to emscripten the latest vice which was released last December.
12:45 🔗 JohnTalen s/are loadable/aren't loadable
12:46 🔗 JohnTalen and besides vice.js hasen't been touched in 4 years.
12:56 🔗 JohnTalen both projects are hacks without any documentation.
12:58 🔗 JohnTalen so at a start I'll be reviewing the http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/ project with v 2.3 released March 31st.
12:58 🔗 JohnTalen s/2.3/3.1
12:59 🔗 JohnTalen with hopeful conversion to emscripten.
13:16 🔗 JohnTalen latest vice buggy under linux. attempting to compile to sdl instead of xaw.
13:20 🔗 JohnTalen SketchCow: If we did go vice.js we wouldn't be able to get updates from the latest vice. and vice.js is one file loaded with magic numbers, no history and no documentation.
13:27 🔗 JohnTalen I should say 'could even possibly manage to go' instead of 'go'.
13:32 🔗 JohnTalen if someone here could test v86 LOCALLY on their harddrive using debug.html with Windows 95 or Windows 98 under Windows and/or Mac. That'd be of help. I'm contemplating neighter will work as the http://copy.sh works fine for me under Linux. impedence mismatch.
13:32 🔗 JohnTalen compiling
13:38 🔗 JohnTalen compiled, works visibily at various windows sizes but no menu accessible. reading.
13:41 🔗 JohnTalen compiling w/ sdl 1.2 instead of 2.
13:43 🔗 JohnTalen that is so say I can emulate Windows 95 and Windows 98 using copy.sh but not locally via debug.html. other images work locally. btw I found out PAE isn't supported.
13:44 🔗 JohnTalen It'd be nice if we could use VirtualBox but it's a qt monster.
13:45 🔗 JohnTalen SketchCow: I'm going to need alternative for v86. I have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCem under the Comparison bullet.
13:47 🔗 Vito` JohnTalen: if you get Vice re-ported, you probably want to make the effort to get it running with SDL2. SDL1 with emscripten is more like a shim, SDL2 is the real thing.
13:48 🔗 JohnTalen Vito`: yes. It's more mature. I'm just trying 1.2. Same results no menus. They fixed a few bugs from december but created some new ones. i'll go back to sdl2 when I figure out the menu accessibility.
13:48 🔗 Vito` I'll give v86 a shot tonight if no-one else has gotten to it by then
13:49 🔗 JohnTalen Vito`: ok great! Big feel it'll lock up. there are differences from the site copy. i tried to wget the site but he has the sources protected.
13:52 🔗 JohnTalen great.
13:53 🔗 JohnTalen got it f-12 is menus.
13:53 🔗 JohnTalen switching to sdl2.
13:54 🔗 JohnTalen sweet. they changed the x11 menus to in house commodore 64 cbmscii.
14:09 🔗 JohnTalen well, the Moebius game image loads and runs. Looks like they added a stutter to scroll but at least no show stoppers. using sdl2.
14:09 🔗 JohnTalen sounds works too.
14:09 🔗 JohnTalen full screen was impossible in decemeber. so niiicce.
14:28 🔗 JohnTalen aparently vice.js appears to require you get v 2.4 and splice it into the project.
14:34 🔗 JohnTalen i'll attempt this today.
14:35 🔗 Vito` it's possible that vice.js as a separate project is no longer needed, if Vice itself cross-compiles fine
14:56 🔗 JohnTalen fixing some v2.4 bugs. compiling. then attempting splicing vice.js.
14:57 🔗 JohnTalen vice 2.4 afaik has sdl1 not sdl2 and no emscripten.
14:57 🔗 JohnTalen oh I mean to say vice 3.1 has sdl2 but no emscripten.
14:59 🔗 JohnTalen in short, i'll just reference any useful parts of vice.js. not many but wth.
15:43 🔗 JohnTalen ok i fixed a few bugs with 2.4 and running under Linux. Gonna take a break, test a few d64s then splice it with vice.js.
16:55 🔗 JohnTalen ok, the v86 source is officially not matching the images. Images are a one to one relationship with the code. I have to boot it from scratch. do any of you have a slipstreamed bootable windows 98 install cd? (w95 is nice too)
17:03 🔗 JohnTalen Vito`: You may not want to waste time with v86 unless you find it to be something fun and exciting! :)
17:27 🔗 JohnTalen bbl
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21:07 🔗 JohnTalen E:
21:09 🔗 DFJustin E:\> _
21:12 🔗 JohnTalen Ha. wrong window.
21:12 🔗 JohnTalen COMMAND NOT FOUND! :p
21:12 🔗 DFJustin Bad command or file name.
21:21 🔗 JohnTalen Wow. The Universe doesn't want me to boot Windows. I blame the republic.
23:38 🔗 JohnTalen just need a cdrom accessible (as E:\) windows 95B boot disk image in ISO. anyone , anyone?
23:39 🔗 JohnTalen many book disks online in .EXE format. wine breaks, calls it an invalid EXE format. I haven't used windows since 2011. lol. should've kept all my old stuff.

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