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devesine_ is now known as devesine |
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19:13
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SketchCow |
HEY |
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19:15
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SketchCow |
I'm in town to Monday |
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19:15
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SketchCow |
Short visit. |
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19:15
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SketchCow |
Anyone want to come to Friday Lunch? |
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19:17
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bai |
won't be able to make it on friday unfortunately |
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19:47
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SketchCow |
This is a pretty packed time, unfortunately, but I'm back in July |
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19:48
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SketchCow |
Rachel is here and there's a friend's memorial for the weekend and she is in rough shape |
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19:48
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SketchCow |
I'm around today and tomorrow if you want to hang during business hours |
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20:07
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bai |
hmm, don't think I'll be able to make it today either |
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20:07
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bai |
oh well, I'll catch you in july |
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20:07
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bai |
sorry to hear about rachel/your friend |
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20:10
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SketchCow |
I've uploaded SO MUCH SOFTWARE |
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20:11
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?and%5B%5D=addeddate%3A2017-06%2A&sort=-publicdate&page=1 |
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20:14
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bai |
nice |
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20:14
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bai |
I forget if we got iso mounting working or not |
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20:14
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bai |
I mean I know we can with full download |
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20:14
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bai |
but probably not with ranged support yet? |
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20:18
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SketchCow |
We don't but we should think about all this |
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20:33
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DFJustin |
so I've been doing some test compiles and webassembly is working well now in shipping browsers |
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20:33
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DFJustin |
apple2e runs fast enough to use the modern disk II emulation http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/apple2e/apple2e/ |
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20:34
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DFJustin |
jaguar and amiga are faster but not quite full speed yet fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/jaguar/jaguar/ http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/amiga/a500p/ |
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20:35
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DFJustin |
as you would expect the speedup seems to be biggest on the things which were the most perversely slow compared to native, like amiga goes from like 18% to like 80% |
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20:35
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DFJustin |
not sure what the mobile situation is like but it may be time to look at switching |
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20:37
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bai |
I mean the biggest problem with using this stuff on mobile is inputs |
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20:37
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bai |
arcade games just aren't playable with swipe and no buttons, heh |
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20:37
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bai |
so I wouldn't be TOO concerned with mobile support of wasm, other than to be able to say "look it runs" |
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20:38
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bai |
if we roll this out to IA it would be in addition to the asm.js builds though, we'd want automatic fallback for non-wasm browsers |
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20:39
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DFJustin |
firefox and chrome have had it for a few versions now, does edge? |
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20:40
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JohnTalen |
Was looking at pcem. not so developer friendly. any actual documenation beyond make, ./pcem would help. |
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20:41
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DFJustin |
I mean having a fallback is obviously best but I'd be curious what the market penetration of non-wasm-capable browsers actually is |
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20:41
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bai |
I think edge supports it, ie11 doesn't, opera doesn't... |
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20:42
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bai |
oh opera does support it |
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20:42
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bai |
safari supports it as of a week ago |
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20:46
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DFJustin |
ok so around 15% probably |
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20:49
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SketchCow |
I hope JohnTalen didn't di |
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20:49
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SketchCow |
e |
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20:50
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DFJustin |
unless it was in the last 9 minutes |
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20:54
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SketchCow |
Or there he is |
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21:05
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JohnTalen |
SketchCow: I am here! |
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21:06
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JohnTalen |
pcem not to be confused with pce. |
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21:10
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JohnTalen |
SketchCow: I sent the author of v86 a home made custom installed Windows 95 hard drive. He is using it to fix whatever bug is in v86. |
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21:12
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JohnTalen |
I was thinking about converting qemu to emscripten. But it doesn't support netcards at the very least. I will focus on v86 and leave qmu secondary. If you need me to intergrate the ST version into emularity I can do that. |
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21:13
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SketchCow |
I think pce and v86 are good things to go after |
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21:13
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SketchCow |
all are a pain in the ass, which is why there are so few of us working on this |
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21:14
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JohnTalen |
Also qemu doesn't officially support Windows 95/98. |
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21:14
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JohnTalen |
SketchCow: yes you got that write. nothing solid in all areas. Qemu might be good post 98 like xp/2000. |
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21:15
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JohnTalen |
Okay, I'll get the ST portion wrapped up into emularity then. |
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21:15
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bai |
JohnTalen: if the emulators don't do network cards but do serial port emulation, we can work with that at least |
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JohnTalen |
bai: okay. |
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21:17
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JohnTalen |
I tried video support for qemu and it works nicely, but using the same image in v86, not so much. |
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SketchCow |
And for the record |
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21:23
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SketchCow |
There've been MULTIPLE cases of JSMESS/Emularity work driving innovation among emulators |
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JohnTalen |
ok |
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23:30
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JohnTalen |
analyzing v86 source tonight and tommorow morning, then porting ST emulation to emularity. |
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23:42
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SketchCow |
Fantastic |
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23:42
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SketchCow |
Work with us if you get stuck |
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23:43
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db48x |
JohnTalen: I'll be esecially interested to hear your questions about integrating it with emularity once you've got it compiled |
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db48x |
especially |
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23:45
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DFJustin |
db48x: have you looked into testing for webassembly support in emularity |
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23:48
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db48x |
DFJustin: if we build to wasm with emscripten, then the emularity kindof doesn't have to do anything |
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23:49
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db48x |
DFJustin: because the output is still mixed JS and wasm, and part of what the JS does is load the wasm |
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DFJustin |
but if we want to say "if wasm is available, load this js which loads the wasm, otherwise load this other js which is asm.js" |
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23:56
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db48x |
hmm |
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23:56
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DFJustin |
to allow for older browser versions / unsupported browsers |
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23:56
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JohnTalen |
db48x: What I'm wondering now is why pce-20170208-df19414 isn't already integrated since it is necessary for pce-mac emulation. |
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23:56
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JohnTalen |
SketchCow: ok great. Thanks SketchCow! |
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23:58
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db48x |
JohnTalen: not integrated into what? |
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23:59
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JohnTalen |
*isn't already integrated into emularity...'. |
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23:59
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JohnTalen |
that is, the project, on github. |