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00:17
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SketchCow |
db48x`: I have a question |
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00:17
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SketchCow |
Or more a "how do I do this" |
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00:18
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SketchCow |
Which is "how do I define for an Apple II item that the boot disk is in one drive and the disk in this item is in the other? |
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00:20
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SketchCow |
Specifically |
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00:20
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/DualBootHelper_qkumba has been created to allow us to have a boot disk for Apple II floppies on the site. |
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00:20
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SketchCow |
It does smart things |
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00:20
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SketchCow |
Lets you get to cool stuff |
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00:21
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SketchCow |
I want to say "boot with DualBootHelper_qkumba/DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk in the first floppy drive and with the other floppy in the rest." |
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00:25
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SketchCow |
This will make thousands of Apple II programs "do the right thing" |
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00:28
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db48x` is now known as db48x |
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00:29
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db48x |
for MAME we do something similar to dosbox |
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00:29
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db48x |
mame_peripheral_FOO, where foo is MAME's name for a peripheral |
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00:31
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db48x |
if I recall correctly, for an apple2 that would be flop1 and flop2 |
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00:31
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db48x |
so mame_peripheral_flop1 and mame_peripheral_flop2 |
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00:32
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/a2_Lode_Runner_1983_Broderbund_cr_Surgeon |
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00:32
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SketchCow |
So, if I do this, I HAVE to set flop2, where before I didn't, right |
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00:34
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db48x |
yea, that looks right |
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00:34
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SketchCow |
Fails out. |
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00:35
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SketchCow |
I'm setting up some test ones here, choosing a few across different realms |
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00:37
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SketchCow |
OK, so. |
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00:37
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0 |
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00:38
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SketchCow |
definitely fails out |
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00:38
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SketchCow |
At first I thought Lode Runner was freaking because it set ext_ to do and it's a .dsk and a .do |
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00:38
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SketchCow |
I assume that's meaningless to the IA system, as long as _ext is SET, it's not making ANY smart judgements |
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00:38
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Sgeo |
Ooh, Freeserv |
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00:38
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db48x |
I'll debug it later, but for the moment just try deleting emulator_ext entirely |
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00:38
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SketchCow |
So Colossus Chess is more "normal" |
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00:38
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Sgeo |
I might have use for a Freeserv disc |
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00:39
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SketchCow |
No can do - can't remove _ext or it won't turn on the player. |
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00:39
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SketchCow |
So, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0 is more close to the platonic "ideal" |
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00:40
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SketchCow |
It's a .dsk, it's definitely got the item, etc. |
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00:41
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db48x |
SketchCow: yea, that's something that should be fixed on IA's side; the loader definitely treats emulator_ext as optional |
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00:41
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SketchCow |
Hank needed a way to know it was set - he could probably switch to just checking if "emulator" is set as well as type "software" |
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00:42
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db48x |
that sounds reasonable |
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00:42
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db48x |
but like I said, I'll debug it later when I have more time |
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00:42
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SketchCow |
No problem. |
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00:42
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SketchCow |
I'll play around a tad |
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00:48
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SketchCow |
Definitely something goofy |
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00:48
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SketchCow |
1. You are correct, mame_peripheral_* has meaning |
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00:49
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SketchCow |
2. Setting the flop2 to something "wrong" makes it go red (good) |
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00:50
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SketchCow |
3. Setting flop2 to something "right" makes it load it, but then it all fails |
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00:55
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs is an example of it working. |
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00:55
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SketchCow |
If I put it in as 2 floppies it kind of fails |
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00:56
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SketchCow |
If I set flop1 and flop2, as I have, it now works great. |
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00:56
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SketchCow |
But I had to put the boot floppy in the same item |
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00:56
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SketchCow |
Mame_peripheral_flop1 00_DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk |
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00:56
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SketchCow |
Mame_peripheral_flop2 003a_Various_Games_and_Programs.dsk |
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00:56
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SketchCow |
So those set, it boots. but 00_Dual_Boot_helper.... needed to be in the item |
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00:57
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SketchCow |
Checking mac to see if I'm doing some botardation |
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01:08
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SketchCow |
Nope, something is definitely weird. |
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01:08
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SketchCow |
So I'll leave the working example up and the broken one up |
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01:27
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DFJustin |
I wonder if it doesn't like flop1 being specified twice |
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01:27
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DFJustin |
like if the 'normal' loading process sets flop1 and then you |
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01:27
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DFJustin |
're also setting flop1 with this mame peripheral business |
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01:31
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SketchCow |
Well, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs works great |
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01:31
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SketchCow |
And that has flop1 and flop2 set |
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01:31
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SketchCow |
I'm sure it's something with the "load from this item" thing |
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01:34
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01:37
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SketchCow |
If I set mame_peripheral_* to itemname/itemimage, it fails. |
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01:45
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03:34
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Sgeo_ vaguely wonders if it's worthwhile to try to make a self-extracting EXE via WinZip for IA emulation purposes |
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14:16
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14:20
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SketchCow |
So, it occurs to me with this flop1 knowledge, I COULD experiment with bundling up two-disk items |
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14:21
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DFJustin |
whoah 1 gigabyte of chinese apple II |
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16:21
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17:14
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SketchCow |
Yeah, a party |
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19:45
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22:23
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22:54
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Sgeo_ |
There's a disc I broke a long time ago, and I can't find a copy anywhere online |
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22:54
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Sgeo_ |
Should I buy a book just to get it and upload it somewhere? |
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22:57
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Sgeo_ |
BetaArchives wants, for membership, something they don't already have. Suspect that this CD might count, but can't be sure |