[00:17] db48x`: I have a question [00:17] Or more a "how do I do this" [00:18] Which is "how do I define for an Apple II item that the boot disk is in one drive and the disk in this item is in the other? [00:20] Specifically [00:20] https://archive.org/details/DualBootHelper_qkumba has been created to allow us to have a boot disk for Apple II floppies on the site. [00:20] It does smart things [00:20] Lets you get to cool stuff [00:21] I want to say "boot with DualBootHelper_qkumba/DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk in the first floppy drive and with the other floppy in the rest." [00:25] This will make thousands of Apple II programs "do the right thing" [00:28] *** db48x` is now known as db48x [00:29] for MAME we do something similar to dosbox [00:29] mame_peripheral_FOO, where foo is MAME's name for a peripheral [00:31] if I recall correctly, for an apple2 that would be flop1 and flop2 [00:31] so mame_peripheral_flop1 and mame_peripheral_flop2 [00:32] https://archive.org/details/a2_Lode_Runner_1983_Broderbund_cr_Surgeon [00:32] So, if I do this, I HAVE to set flop2, where before I didn't, right [00:34] yea, that looks right [00:34] Fails out. [00:35] I'm setting up some test ones here, choosing a few across different realms [00:37] OK, so. [00:37] https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0 [00:38] definitely fails out [00:38] At first I thought Lode Runner was freaking because it set ext_ to do and it's a .dsk and a .do [00:38] I assume that's meaningless to the IA system, as long as _ext is SET, it's not making ANY smart judgements [00:38] Ooh, Freeserv [00:38] I'll debug it later, but for the moment just try deleting emulator_ext entirely [00:38] So Colossus Chess is more "normal" [00:38] I might have use for a Freeserv disc [00:39] No can do - can't remove _ext or it won't turn on the player. [00:39] So, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0 is more close to the platonic "ideal" [00:40] It's a .dsk, it's definitely got the item, etc. [00:41] SketchCow: yea, that's something that should be fixed on IA's side; the loader definitely treats emulator_ext as optional [00:41] Hank needed a way to know it was set - he could probably switch to just checking if "emulator" is set as well as type "software" [00:42] that sounds reasonable [00:42] but like I said, I'll debug it later when I have more time [00:42] No problem. [00:42] I'll play around a tad [00:48] Definitely something goofy [00:48] 1. You are correct, mame_peripheral_* has meaning [00:49] 2. Setting the flop2 to something "wrong" makes it go red (good) [00:50] 3. Setting flop2 to something "right" makes it load it, but then it all fails [00:55] https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs is an example of it working. [00:55] If I put it in as 2 floppies it kind of fails [00:56] If I set flop1 and flop2, as I have, it now works great. [00:56] But I had to put the boot floppy in the same item [00:56] Mame_peripheral_flop1 00_DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk [00:56] Mame_peripheral_flop2 003a_Various_Games_and_Programs.dsk [00:56] So those set, it boots. but 00_Dual_Boot_helper.... needed to be in the item [00:57] Checking mac to see if I'm doing some botardation [01:08] Nope, something is definitely weird. [01:08] So I'll leave the working example up and the broken one up [01:27] I wonder if it doesn't like flop1 being specified twice [01:27] like if the 'normal' loading process sets flop1 and then you [01:27] 're also setting flop1 with this mame peripheral business [01:31] Well, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs works great [01:31] And that has flop1 and flop2 set [01:31] I'm sure it's something with the "load from this item" thing [01:34] *** Sgeo_ has joined #jsmess [01:37] If I set mame_peripheral_* to itemname/itemimage, it fails. [01:45] *** Sgeo has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:34] * Sgeo_ vaguely wonders if it's worthwhile to try to make a self-extracting EXE via WinZip for IA emulation purposes [04:24] *** azakai has joined #jsmess [04:45] *** azakai has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [09:31] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:55] *** zino has joined #jsmess [12:49] *** DFJustin has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:49] *** DFJustin has joined #jsmess [14:16] *** azakai has joined #jsmess [14:20] So, it occurs to me with this flop1 knowledge, I COULD experiment with bundling up two-disk items [14:21] whoah 1 gigabyte of chinese apple II [16:21] *** azakai has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) [17:14] Yeah, a party [19:45] *** azakai has joined #jsmess [22:23] *** DFJustin has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:26] *** Ravenloft has joined #jsmess [22:26] *** DFJustin has joined #jsmess [22:54] There's a disc I broke a long time ago, and I can't find a copy anywhere online [22:54] Should I buy a book just to get it and upload it somewhere? [22:57] BetaArchives wants, for membership, something they don't already have. Suspect that this CD might count, but can't be sure