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Nickname |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
I'm enjoying bfod and his many, many, many requests |
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01:55
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db48x |
SketchCow: http://gcserver.magnet.nyu.edu/~bennett/emu/antattack-spectrum.html |
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01:55
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db48x |
SketchCow: requests plus action |
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02:01
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SketchCow |
Well, I'm glad to hear that, at least. |
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02:04
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SketchCow |
While sitting in a rainy car today, I had an epiphany about next-gen Emularity |
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02:04
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SketchCow |
Now I have to check with all of you if you have time and interest in giving time towards it |
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02:05
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SketchCow |
I believe arkiver bai devesine and Vito have indicated they're out. :) |
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02:06
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db48x |
I'm always interested in ideas :) |
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02:29
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SketchCow |
Excellent. |
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02:29
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SketchCow |
I'm wondering if I dump them here or in a doc |
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02:33
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db48x |
advantages to both |
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02:34
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SketchCow |
Well, it's nothing I am trying to hide or perfect before discussing. |
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02:34
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SketchCow |
In summary: COMPUTERLAB.ARCHIVE.ORG |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
We've wanted to do "full virtual machine" for some time now, and we've been dreading trying to shoehorn it all into the archive's interface |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
So fuck it, we make an interface that uses IA resources, but is completely geared for this. |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
So you go there, check out a machine, and you can save and load disks and the whole rest |
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02:35
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db48x |
:) |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
With the ability to reference disks in the Internet Archive's collection, etc. |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
And then it's everything we want. |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
And we're not falling backwards through 25 painful layers of CORS and misery |
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02:36
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DFJustin |
I like |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
And db48x doesn't keep getting good excuses not to take his free time and spend it on * |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
Because oh boy, turns out obscurity.php makes keyboards not work |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
I'm trying to prevent a hanging, is what I'm saying |
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02:38
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SketchCow |
Murder suicide |
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02:38
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SketchCow |
A spree |
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02:38
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db48x |
by whom? |
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02:39
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SketchCow |
You, if we try to do COMPUTERLAB in the System |
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02:39
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SketchCow |
As opposed to a nice start from scratch thing where emularity stretches its legs |
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02:39
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SketchCow |
And we can try to solve the real problems, like image saving and screenshotting and so on |
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02:39
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SketchCow |
And keyboard through browser |
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02:40
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SketchCow |
Without finding things getting seized up by IA infracoding |
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02:40
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db48x |
heh |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
I mean, make no mistake, I really really really want webassembly going on IA as soon as you can |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
But I think this higher-level computer lab thing, where we bring up this thing that will do the thing we all want.... |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
...I think that's the true endgame for anything beyond using Emularity as a "player" on IA |
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02:43
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SketchCow |
So, there's things like https://www.scullinsteel.com/apple2/ |
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02:43
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SketchCow |
And http://www.virtualapple.org/ |
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02:44
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SketchCow |
I feel like there's real pros and cons to Skeumorphic-a-tastic version |
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02:44
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SketchCow |
But I also hate when things look like a spreadsheet |
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02:45
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db48x |
spreadsheets are pretty much my skill level for web design |
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02:45
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SketchCow |
Right, you wouldn't be doing the design |
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02:45
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SketchCow |
Or me |
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02:45
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SketchCow |
We'd get someone |
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02:45
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SketchCow |
And we'd probably try to be flexible, so we could have skins |
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02:46
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SketchCow |
There's probably 4,192,222,122 (checks watch) 4,192,222,129 people who can do the whole "make a website out of these components" thing |
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02:46
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db48x |
I think IA's approach has a lot of merit |
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02:46
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SketchCow |
I do not |
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02:46
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SketchCow |
I do too I mean |
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02:46
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SketchCow |
Wow, that was a typo |
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02:46
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db48x |
with IA's model you get a big list of concrete goals: play game X, play game Y |
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02:47
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SketchCow |
Agreed |
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02:47
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db48x |
you click on it, and we configure the emulator for you |
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02:47
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SketchCow |
I think as a player model it works |
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02:47
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SketchCow |
It's just we keep nibbling at "more than a player" |
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02:47
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db48x |
you don't have to muck about with 13 different options for the expansion slots |
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02:47
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SketchCow |
That means a menu |
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02:47
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SketchCow |
that means not this or that |
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02:48
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SketchCow |
I also like the options, though. |
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02:48
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db48x |
but there is merit to the other approach |
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02:48
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SketchCow |
https://defacto2.net/f/ae2c29?name=-&platform=dos§ion=-&sort=date_desc&dosmachine=svga&dosaudio=gus&dosspeed=max |
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02:48
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db48x |
given a list of printers available for machine X, compare the print output from software Y |
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02:48
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SketchCow |
I am just having the rain-based epiphany that it makes sense to try to make a site that's easy to use but lets you go deeper |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
But could also be used by kids |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
or people tinkering |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
Or people with Mac disk images |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
bing, here's your mac |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
Click in a disk |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
Save out a disk |
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02:49
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SketchCow |
Even have minimal versions where you can literally be working in a word processor from beyond time and still use it now |
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02:55
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SketchCow |
Anyway, that's the idea. We should continue to make the player better but not try to turn it into a Transformer combined with a swiss army knife |
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02:56
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db48x |
I think it's a good idea |
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02:57
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SketchCow |
I'll assemble some things into a doc as soon as I'm back from Japan |
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03:21
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bai |
SketchCow: just wanna clarify, I'm not *out*, just particularly busy at the moment, I'm always here to spitball ideas or make incremental changes, just hard for me to commit to the big stuff |
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03:23
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SketchCow |
I mean from committing to this particular thing right now |
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03:23
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SketchCow |
I know that devesine is just waiting for that next big thing to jump into with us |
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03:23
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SketchCow |
I will ping icc again |
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03:28
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SketchCow |
I feel like that's just sitting there |
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03:28
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SketchCow |
Waiiiiting |
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03:28
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SketchCow |
A huge performance jump, maybe the last big one |
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04:39
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bai |
indeed |
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