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A_Scanner |
I'm running ubuntu i386/x86 and trying to build. I keep getting some of the same errors. when I try and 'make TARGET=mess' I keep getting this error: "make: leaving directory ../mame/srs/devices/cpu/m6800' make:*** No rule to make target 'scripts/target/mess/mess.lua', needed by 'build/projects/sdl/mess/gmake-linux/Makefile'. Stop |
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01:13
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A_Scanner |
I haven't been able to build MAME normally yet. I've been resolving different issues and right now when running a 'make' I get 'undefined reference to 'SEGAM1AUDIO' and 'undefined reference to 'ACCLAIM_RAX' |
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06:39
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SketchCow |
A_Scanner: DFJustin and db48x can help |
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06:42
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bai |
oh A_Scanner - you don't really want to build "mess" as a target. mess isn't a system, it's just....well...it's hard to explain, but basically MAME tried to rename to MESS, it didn't really take, so they said, okay fine, we'll go back to just calling everything MAME |
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06:42
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bai |
it's....well....a mess. but anyway, there is no target called "mess" - your target would be the individual system you want to build |
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06:43
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bai |
or for the native built you can just run make without a target, and it'll build the big combined build file |
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06:43
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bai |
build* |
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07:23
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A_Scanner |
bai: Thanks! It looks like I'm not the only one with this issue on the full build. This person is facing about the same challenges that I am: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/2874 |
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07:31
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A_Scanner |
Apparently there is an oddball change in mame that *might* break some builds. Sounds like compiling everything up until this commit works: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/39176274946d70ff520f265dee8fbd16d5fe0000 I got latest in hopes it was fixed and no new errors and going for another build. Failing that I'll get up until that checkpoint and try building that. |
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07:35
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DFJustin |
I know there have been issues with compiling on 32-bit because the project is so huge now |
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07:39
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A_Scanner |
Thanks DFJustin, I'm starting an install of 64 bitness and giving that a try. But first. Sleep! that's where I'm a viking! |
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08:00
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A_Scanner |
K.. got both VM's compiling mame right now. x86 vs amd64 fight! |
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08:27
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DFJustin |
you'll need a goodly amount of ram too |
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12:03
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A_Scanner |
yay disk resize.. ran out of room on the 64 bit vm. Building again |
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15:49
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SketchCow |
Great |
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15:50
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A_Scanner |
I appear to be getting further on the 64 bit build of mame (at least different errors) so I think I'm on the right track |
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15:51
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SketchCow |
Also great. |
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15:52
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SketchCow |
Do you understand the basic problem we're trying to solve, A_Scanner? |
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15:53
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A_Scanner |
There's a timing mismatch with mame/mess and browsers that could be streamlined. |
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15:55
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A_Scanner |
Is my gist. There is a google doc started: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FHmn1kO3PGYYCRJejZsZMFk_BxWer_pOaTUANRFroM8/edit#heading=h.pmazbh81wixz that could use some fleshing out |
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15:57
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SketchCow |
I'm literally the one writing that. |
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15:57
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SketchCow |
And yes. My hope is that a fresh mind with some time could nail out the problem pretty easily. |
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15:58
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SketchCow |
For one thing, we're lucky - Javascript output is now a target built into MAME itself. |
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15:59
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SketchCow |
That means it's a matter of making settings for when you're compiling with Emscripten |
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15:59
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SketchCow |
I can't begin to say how much of a climbed mountain this is. |
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16:00
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SketchCow |
We're just trying to put a little HVAC on the top of the mountain |
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16:00
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A_Scanner |
That's pretty cool. Getting a new to you source/toolchain/build set up going is almost always a little fraught. Happy to help |
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16:00
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A_Scanner |
Even if I can't fix it I'll document the shit out of what I find. |
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16:00
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A_Scanner |
so the next person has good notes. |
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16:06
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A_Scanner |
On a personal note, I'm curious if someone has figured a way out to access all the virtualized sound chips and get mame chiptune out of it. |
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16:07
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SketchCow |
Well, MAME has lots of functionality for outputting what it generates. |
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17:02
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SketchCow |
yay, bai is updating |
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17:08
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bai |
:D |
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17:52
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SketchCow |
I'll just keep piling people on this problem until it's solved |
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18:07
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A_Scanner |
Sounds good. |
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18:38
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A_Scanner |
Ok. So reverting to supposedly good check in. Rumor has it that this checkin: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/6829ecb3b037d6bfbe0b84e818d17d712f71bce6 builds ok. |
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18:45
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DFJustin |
there's a vgmplayer target that's a chiptune player |
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18:50
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A_Scanner |
DFJustin: Thanks! I also saw a kurzweil k2000 emulation thing spin by. Not sure of it's current state but someone's trying to plumb in a k2000 board which I loved |
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19:40
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SketchCow |
bai: Let me know when you think it's "ready" |
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19:40
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SketchCow |
And I will darken the skies |
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19:41
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bai |
SketchCow: well, I'm trying to retrace my steps on what I did before. having a hard time picking up the trail again. I can't find my original experimental changes, I know the change had to do with how the sleep functions were handled, but now I'm having a hard time finding the art of either emscripten's, mame's, or stdlib's code I was looking at that had be going "a hah!" |
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19:42
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bai |
part* |
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19:44
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A_Scanner |
I'm still compiling mame on x86 and amd64 of that checkin I linked to. I'll keep you guys posted if that compiles on ubuntu for me. |
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19:44
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bai |
I wouldn't recommend doing both at once, heh. just do the 64-bit build |
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19:45
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bai |
and use as much parallelism as you can throw at it, -j4 or -j8 depending how many cores you have |
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19:46
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A_Scanner |
I'll keep that in mind for future builds. |
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19:47
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SketchCow |
In other news, I'm thinking of paying a pixel artist to make icons along a style for the computerlab.archive.org site. |
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19:47
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SketchCow |
And I'm wondering if I can find a web designer who wants to help |
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19:47
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bai |
cool |
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SketchCow |
I do fairly believe that once this is on a table in a cogent explanation, people will just fix it |
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bai |
yeah, it's an interesting enough problem that if people get the explanation, it gets the wheels turning, but there's so much ramp-up on getting a working dev environment |
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20:06
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bai |
having the explanation lets people think about it while things are compiling |
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20:12
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bai |
oh wow, I have an audience, haha |
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20:21
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SketchCow |
Better type faster!! |
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20:21
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bai |
I'll throw in some fancy pictures, that'll keep 'em busy! |
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21:31
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SketchCow |
Looking good |
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21:33
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bai |
I think I covered all the details |
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21:34
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bai |
I'd ask if it all makes sense or if I missed something, but, that's the whole problem, it doesn't entirely make sense and we definitely missed something :D |
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21:39
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SketchCow |
Looks like the next thing is to come up with the requirements for compiling the environment. Maybe DFJustin or others can help |
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21:39
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SketchCow |
I think that's what slows down people who want to help |
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21:40
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bai |
a lot of that is covered in mame's docs now, but yeah we could do with more detailed instructions |
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21:40
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bai |
especially about hooking up what we've built to emularity so people can test |
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21:41
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SketchCow |
Even some links to how to build from the docs is helpful |
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21:41
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SketchCow |
I notice that's what's slowed down A_Scanner |
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bai |
yeah I put that up at the top, under "Compiling prerequisites" |
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bai |
although there's a bad page break so one of them kind of gets lost |
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21:43
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bai |
and I kind of trail off there too, like you said, needs a full section later on |
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21:43
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SketchCow |
Found it, added a page break |
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bai |
cool, better |
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21:45
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SketchCow |
Still people looking at it, so that's something |
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22:53
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SketchCow |
A_Scanner: Need help with anything? |
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22:53
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SketchCow |
Does the document help now? |
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22:53
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SketchCow |
anyone else in the channel help? |
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A_Scanner |
SketchCow: I just got it all to compile on ubuntu! x86 and amd64. |
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A_Scanner |
From a new ubuntu VM I had to install the following to get mame to build. git make gcc mesa-common-dev qt5-default qttools5-dev-tools libsdl2-dev libsdl2-ttf-dev emscripten libfontconfig1-dev |
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23:16
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A_Scanner |
I tried to build from the latest multiple times over the weekend and in ubuntu that didn't work for me. I found out that this version builds ok: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/6829ecb3b037d6bfbe0b84e818d17d712f71bce6 |
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23:17
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bai |
good to know, yeah there's always the possibility of either mame, emscripten, or the browsers themselves changing things which break the whole system |
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23:17
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bai |
part of the fun I guess :P |
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23:22
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A_Scanner |
One dev thinks its just an 'environment' issue but an awful lot of people run ubuntu.. I don't have the cycles to devote to figuring out why the latest mame doesn't compile right on ubuntu. |
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23:24
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A_Scanner |
Speaking of cycles I've got day job work I need to get done this weekend still. The google doc does a much better job of describing the problem and I think it's an interesting problem so it should attract developer interest. |
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SketchCow |
Great |
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bai |
yeah, and it helps me to put it all in to words, the act of writing it down made me go back and remember most of what I'd forgotten |
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23:45
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SketchCow |
....and then fix it! |
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SketchCow waits hopefully |
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23:45
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SketchCow |
I'm sure it's 3 lines |
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23:54
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SketchCow |
https://skeletonplanet.com/test/timeout_tester.html |
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23:54
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/cairnsh/status/937468413697495040 |