#jsmess 2018-08-30,Thu

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00:48 🔗 Sgeo Can emulator_start be blank? Say, for just booting into the default BASIC mode?
00:53 🔗 bai I think so?
00:53 🔗 bai try it and find out :D
01:23 🔗 Sgeo Using the resolution that that vice.js website uses makes the CRT emulation better. Wonder if CRT emulation should be configurable
01:27 🔗 Sgeo Looks like IA still recognizes it as an emulator. Empty string is equiv to removing the key, so I need to make my code recognize that condition
02:05 🔗 Sgeo A test program I was using was making clicking noises in my experimentation. I just tried it on vice.janicek.co, and it's making clicking noises there too
03:14 🔗 Sgeo Going to pause working on getting .zip support to work, probably stuff like sound button takes priority
03:35 🔗 SketchCow Hello hey
03:36 🔗 SketchCow Let me wake db48x
03:43 🔗 SketchCow I flung a bunch of shit in
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03:51 🔗 SketchCow Sgeo: Want to avoid you burning out
03:51 🔗 SketchCow So I want you to be connected with db48x
03:51 🔗 SketchCow For the purposes of this, I see no reason we're not going to use the same approach we do with the other computers that are NOT dosbox.
03:52 🔗 SketchCow I.e. we have d64, prg etc. files in there, not a zip we pull apart.
03:52 🔗 Sgeo What do the other approaches do for scenarios where there are multiple files with different extensions?
03:52 🔗 SketchCow Uses the first file
03:53 🔗 SketchCow The thing is, don't combine in your mind the archival version and the presentation version
03:54 🔗 Sgeo Hmm. I suppose, for the one scenario I was thinking of (.crt and .d64 or .prg), the .crt could be hosted somewhere else, ala dosbox_drive_
03:54 🔗 SketchCow Yes
03:54 🔗 SketchCow All I want to avoid is you work very hard to duplicate something db48x already accounted for
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03:55 🔗 SketchCow Our friend who tried this before blew up mostly because I think he was trying a very unstandard method to do things
03:56 🔗 SketchCow And then he started chasing the system down intensely
03:56 🔗 SketchCow And somewhere in there it came out he's not been able to hold a job since 2000
03:56 🔗 SketchCow And then he got very unhappy and claimed IA had hacked his system
03:56 🔗 SketchCow So.... lotta stuff there
03:57 🔗 Sgeo I'm attempting to fit in within the approach that already exists, I'm not sure if I'm succeeding, need another pair of eyes to check.
03:57 🔗 SketchCow Right
03:57 🔗 SketchCow I am just working here to make sure you're not building a huge sandcastle
03:58 🔗 SketchCow The thing with db48x is he has an odd sleep schedule
03:58 🔗 SketchCow But when I get my mitts on him, he'll show up here
03:58 🔗 SketchCow Is the speed comparable to https://vice.janicek.co/c64/
03:59 🔗 Sgeo I don't have an IRC client on my phone :/, so if I'm away from my computer I can't really chat
03:59 🔗 Sgeo It should be, although .d64s seemed to load slowly. Let me check if they load slowly on there too
04:02 🔗 SketchCow Obviously, in the long term, I'd like to see the core VICE being emulated to jump from 2.4 to 3.2
04:02 🔗 SketchCow Hopefully it won't be horrendous, although more a matter of seeing what internally this fellow did
04:05 🔗 Sgeo Hmm. For 20 Years HVSC, LOADing from d64 took much longer on IA then on that website. And then the IA one played the beginning music too fast at first
04:06 🔗 SketchCow I simply don't know what you're doing here.
04:06 🔗 SketchCow How is it only you can boot it in your test environment?
04:06 🔗 SketchCow Do you need some hosting or something else to do it?
04:07 🔗 Sgeo Is there a test/staging version of IA? I'm telling my computer to load an emularity file from my computer instead of IA's website
04:07 🔗 SketchCow Yes, in fact.
04:07 🔗 SketchCow Give me your loader.js
04:07 🔗 Sgeo https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/emularity/master/loader.js
04:08 🔗 SketchCow OK
04:10 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/20YearsHVSC_test_item&external_js=1
04:11 🔗 Sgeo It still says vice-x64
04:12 🔗 SketchCow What should I be doing here?
04:12 🔗 SketchCow I take it I should rename some files in emularity_engine_v1
04:12 🔗 Sgeo https://archive.org/details/icebloxplus_vice_test_1&external_js=1 works without the change on my machine, except for the part where I removed emulator_start and didn't re-add it yet so it shows basic
04:13 🔗 Sgeo Or I could change emulator to vice
04:13 🔗 Sgeo Submitted metadata change, takes a while
04:13 🔗 Sgeo Then the one you linked should work
04:16 🔗 Sgeo SketchCow, try now
04:16 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, I see it works now
04:16 🔗 SketchCow So is it 100% using IA resources?
04:16 🔗 SketchCow Or is it calling back to you
04:16 🔗 Sgeo 100% IA resources
04:17 🔗 SketchCow Encouraging.
04:17 🔗 SketchCow I wonder why it looks different on Chrome vs. Firefox
04:17 🔗 SketchCow Checking Brave
04:18 🔗 Sgeo I didn't test at all on anything other than Chrome, oops
04:18 🔗 SketchCow My brave instance seems to look good
04:18 🔗 Sgeo How does vice.janicek look in Firefox?
04:19 🔗 SketchCow One moment... what's an absolute legend C64 item
04:20 🔗 SketchCow Wizball.
04:30 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/WIZBALL_201808&external_js=1
04:38 🔗 Sgeo The vice.janicek.co x64.js is different from the one from the vice.js github
04:38 🔗 SketchCow Yes
04:43 🔗 SketchCow Like I said, I think the ultimate future is just re-doing the port of vice to be the newest version
04:43 🔗 SketchCow db48x (who I just harassed on steam) says do a pull request, please
04:47 🔗 Sgeo Done
04:48 🔗 SketchCow So, what's your thought on forking the vice.js to go to 3.2
04:48 🔗 Sgeo I'm in favor in principle but I don't actually know how to use Emscripten.
04:49 🔗 Sgeo Other than what I learned of calling into it from Javascript for this
04:49 🔗 SketchCow I'll bet bai can help you
04:57 🔗 SketchCow But yeah, I think the nice thing about the system is we can make variants on the item
04:57 🔗 SketchCow To emulate different types of C64s, especially with the realm of VICE command line settings, especially in the new version
05:49 🔗 bai yeah I can help, I'm a bit rusty with emscripten stuff but it's all rattling around somewhere inside my brain cavity
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06:46 🔗 SketchCow High approval from db48x for your PR, Sgeo
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12:47 🔗 Sgeo SketchCow, yay! :). I think I need to clean up that not yet working .zip section
14:15 🔗 SketchCow He sent along changes
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17:58 🔗 SketchCow bai: Let's talk about how to approach this best.
17:58 🔗 SketchCow First, see if you can compile from the github
17:58 🔗 SketchCow https://github.com/rjanicek/vice.js
18:02 🔗 SketchCow I have written Richard Janicek to see if he wants to help
18:02 🔗 SketchCow Also, bai - opens
18:02 🔗 SketchCow ops I mean
18:04 🔗 SketchCow His e-mail bounced.
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18:48 🔗 bai sets mode: +o SketchCow
18:49 🔗 bai SketchCow: right now I may be better off in an advisory position - we had our baby a couple nights ago, so I've barely even opened my laptop since we got home
19:23 🔗 SketchCow My theory is soon it's you with baby in lap
19:23 🔗 SketchCow But that's fine
19:23 🔗 SketchCow WHO WANTS TO BE THE COMPILE KEYSTONE
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23:26 🔗 Sgeo Should I make a separate issue for each to do item for VICE.js or should I make one that encompasses several things?
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23:57 🔗 Sgeo_ Well I just spammed the Emularity github with VICE.js issues, some more important than others

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