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01:44
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Sgeo |
I should find out why set_playback_enabled isn't defined |
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01:44
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Sgeo |
Not a problem now, but could be for getting the mute button to work |
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01:54
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Sgeo |
What the? |
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01:54
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Sgeo |
The SDL version's symbolic keyboard mapping uses tab for the C= key. WinVice and old vice.js use left-ctrl for the C= key |
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01:59
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Sgeo |
https://imgur.com/a/uVnVVzx |
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02:05
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SketchCow |
Let me know when you have another js to hand over. :) |
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02:09
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Sgeo |
Should I keep the SDL default of tab = C= or switch around those keys to the WinVICE one? |
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02:20
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SketchCow |
Tab |
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02:21
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Sgeo |
ok, thanks |
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02:24
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SketchCow |
Are there any other showstoppers for you? |
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02:25
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Sgeo |
Still haven't figured out why sound sounds bad. Right now I want to look at the menus, which don't work on vice.js and would be really nice to have imo |
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02:25
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Sgeo |
I can deliver a current js first, hold on |
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02:25
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SketchCow |
I consider the menus a nicety and a continued refinement |
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02:30
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SketchCow |
Agree we should track down shitty sound issue |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
http://teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org/FINISHED/ |
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02:36
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Sgeo |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/sgeo.github.io/master/experimental/vice32/standalone/x64_keys.js . Double the size :(. I should try excluding the unneeded data directories |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
You can see the screenshots come in, go out |
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02:42
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Sgeo |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/sgeo.github.io/master/experimental/vice32/standalone/x64_keys_small.js |
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02:43
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Sgeo |
Not sure how this one ended up smaller than the build from some time ago, exactly |
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02:44
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02:52
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive2:/2/CDROMS/Madokami/Manga# ls -l vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2382468 Sep 8 02:45 vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive2:/2/CDROMS/Madokami/Manga# gunzip vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive2:/2/CDROMS/Madokami/Manga# ls -l vice32.js |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14987631 Sep 8 02:45 vice32.js |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive2:/2/CDROMS/Madokami/Manga# zopfli vice32.js |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
ls -l vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive2:/2/CDROMS/Madokami/Manga# ls -l vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2213059 Sep 8 02:50 vice32.js.gz |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
What a savings |
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02:54
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Sgeo |
Found a missing key I didn't notice |
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02:55
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Sgeo |
...it's behaving differently on Ubuntu? Am I hallucinating? |
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02:56
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Sgeo |
https://sgeo.github.io/experimental/vice32/x64.html the ; and : work on Firefox but not Chrome |
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02:56
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Sgeo |
I think my brain broke |
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02:57
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Sgeo |
uh... bai? Do the keycodes that browsers give for things ever just... vary between browsers? |
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02:58
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Sgeo |
For however Emscripten's SDL1 support works |
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02:59
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Sgeo |
The =/+ key seems to always type + on Firefox and = on Chrome, regardless of the status of the shift key |
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02:59
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/10_Years_HVSC_2006-11-28_HVSC_Crew_Side_A asusual lets you test the emulator |
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03:04
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SketchCow |
Wondering if I should try a different one too |
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03:05
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Sgeo |
Working menus could allow for easier experimentation of sound settings >.>. Although also I have more of an idea how to fix that than sound, the latter of which is also slightly tricky for me to iterate on |
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03:06
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/Bubble_Bobble_1987_Firebird is on vice32 now |
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03:08
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SketchCow |
http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/vice_toc.html |
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03:10
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Sgeo |
Can you try changing the -soundsync to 1 for vice32? |
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03:10
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SketchCow |
Sure. |
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03:10
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Sgeo |
Thanks |
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03:10
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SketchCow |
Remember the whole incognito |
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03:12
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bai |
Sgeo: they sure do |
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03:12
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bai |
browsers :D |
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03:13
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Sgeo |
Lemme compare vice.js in Chrome vs Firefox |
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03:15
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SketchCow |
Should I turn on autowarp |
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03:16
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Sgeo |
vice.janicek.co has different behavior for some keys |
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03:16
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Sgeo |
Autowarp turns itself on when a file is given on the command line, I think. The web console is saying it's on |
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03:16
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SketchCow |
Really? It seems super slow |
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03:17
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Sgeo |
"AUTOSTART: Turning Warp mode on" |
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03:18
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Sgeo |
HVSC 10 years just crashed the Chrome tab |
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03:18
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SketchCow |
Good, fuck Chrome |
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03:18
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Sgeo |
gah Chrome and Firefox look so similar now |
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03:18
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SketchCow |
Take that |
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03:19
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SketchCow |
SDLVideo: VICII (active) 768x544 32bpp |
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03:19
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SketchCow |
That seems... large |
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03:20
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Sgeo |
That includes the border, the "320x200" resolution doesn't consider that VICE doubles the size by default nor the border |
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03:22
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SketchCow |
I'm just asking if our loader is doubling the resolution too |
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03:23
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Sgeo |
Yes, >.> I took the resolution values from vice.janicek.co which does that too |
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03:23
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SketchCow |
At this point I'm just fishing for why the new one sounds bad and the old one sounds fine |
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03:24
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SketchCow |
I mean otherwise, it's ready for ship and then refinement |
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04:42
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Sgeo |
To fix the key issue, I think what I need to do is write some Javascript, possibly including a 3rd party library, to normalize and convert browser scan codes into SDL1 whatevers... if SDL even has such consistently |
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04:54
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Sgeo |
I just learned I can make a single-file build that does use wasm |
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05:00
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Sgeo |
Ubuntu seemed to lock up. I am starting to think that Ubuntu is as single-threaded as Javascript |
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05:09
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Sgeo |
bai, I am so tempted to modify library_sdl.js to make things sane |
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05:15
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, new build: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/sgeo.github.io/master/experimental/vice32/x64_wasm.js |
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05:15
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Sgeo |
Uses WASM without external dependencies, and I also disabled assertions |
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05:16
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bai |
Sgeo: I'm sure that would be appreciated. I remember having similar problems with MAME when using SDL1 |
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05:17
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05:17
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Sgeo_ |
Let's see if sound works better on there due to speedup |
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05:18
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Sgeo_ |
bai, o.O as a patch to Emscripten? |
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05:19
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Sgeo_ |
That could break stuff that went out of their way to accomodate Emscripten's broken idea of SDL's scancodes |
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05:19
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bai |
Sgeo_: sure |
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05:19
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05:19
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bai |
well, if the behavior is more correct, thatt's generally okay |
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05:23
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bai |
but either way, yeah, see if you can get it to work for this, and we can worry about whether it's something worth contributing back at some point or not |
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05:30
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Sgeo_ |
What's the part that talks to C? |
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05:30
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Sgeo_ |
"{{{ makeSetValue('SDL.keyboardState', 'code', 'down', 'i8') }}};" ? |
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05:31
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bai |
sdl1 is a weird case where it's a pure-js reimplementation |
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05:31
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bai |
vs sdl2 where we just compile sdl2 using emscripten |
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05:32
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Sgeo_ |
This JS routes through keycode to scancode. I think instead I should provide separate tables for both |
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05:32
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bai |
yeah, the whole keyCode vs scanCode thing is a P A I N |
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05:32
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Sgeo_ |
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEvent/key looks like it should be cross-platform, but can't distinguish between left-shift and right-shift |
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05:32
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bai |
yeah |
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05:35
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Sgeo_ |
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEvent/location |
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05:43
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Sgeo_ |
bai, uh, anyone mind if I use a Map, which apparently isn't supported on IE below 11? |
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05:43
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bai |
I personaly dgaf about any ie < edge |
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05:45
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Sgeo_ |
Ugh, .key isn't actually a semantic fit to scancodes anyway. |
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05:45
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Sgeo_ |
Might work for me because I'm just trying to get something which should be using keycodes but is using scancodes working |
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05:45
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Sgeo_ |
(Or, I think it's using scancodes) |
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06:01
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Sgeo_ |
It's using keycodes |
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06:28
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Sgeo_ |
Ah crud was looking at SDL2 values |
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06:50
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Sgeo_ |
Testing, and everything works. Except for the letters and numbers and printable characters. |
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06:50
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Sgeo_ |
At least space and enter work |
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07:01
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Sgeo_ |
Found that bug, fixed. Now to figure out why there's still a handful of characters broken |
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07:07
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Sgeo_ |
Ok this looks like a VICE keymap mistake except for the fact that it works fine on Windows SDL VICE |
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07:08
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Sgeo_ |
SDL seems to say that ! has a different code from 1, but VICE's keymap uses 1's code for both mappings |
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07:14
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Sgeo_ |
Going to modify the VICE keymap, duplicate some entries with the other mapping |
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07:35
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Sgeo_ |
bai, here's my new library_sdl.js. I should note that it seems to give keycodes like 33 for !, and I'm not sure if that's correct, because VICE wasn't actually expecting it |
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07:36
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Sgeo_ |
SketchCow, new version of the JS: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/sgeo.github.io/master/experimental/vice32/x64.js . Using the improved keyboard handling, hopefully consistent across browsers |
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07:38
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Sgeo_ |
https://sgeo.github.io/experimental/vice32/x64.html demo |
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07:51
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Sgeo_ |
Time to go unconscious for a whole bunch of hours |
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09:12
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13:10
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Sgeo_ |
Also, try -ntsc if sound is still bad. It makes the emulator try to match NTSC instead of PAL. Might slow things down but it was suggested on vice.js page |
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14:07
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SketchCow |
Trying it |
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17:22
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Sgeo_ |
Incidentally, has that HVSC 10 year side a thing been tried with the old vice.js? |
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21:39
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Sgeo_ |
bai, what minimizer does Emscripten use for library Javascript? It's broken |
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21:40
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Sgeo_ |
I can't make an object with "\"" as a key. The minimizer turns "\"": foo into ":foo |
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21:46
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SketchCow |
I have not, which is why I switched to Bubble Bobble |
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22:03
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bai |
Sgeo_: I think it uses uh...that google java one...closure |
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22:03
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Sgeo_ |
I don't actually have that installed I think? |
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22:04
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Sgeo_ |
AFK |
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22:04
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bai |
it's optional, I believe |
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22:04
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bai |
and if you're generating wasm I don't think it's used |
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22:05
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Sgeo_ |
For library_sdl.js? |
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22:42
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bai |
oh...I honestly don't know quite h9w that works with wasm output. maybe that does get compiled into the .js that loads the .wasm |
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