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SketchCow |
So would you say you're at an impasse or do you have some additional solutions to try |
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00:46
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SketchCow |
OK, so I'm doing some dumb-blunt cleanup. |
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00:47
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SketchCow |
I'm going to make a workbench area for the C64 items. |
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00:48
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SketchCow |
These are ones that were screenshot but all the shots are of the open screen, meaning they probably never booted. |
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00:53
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Sgeo_ |
SketchCow, there's a handful of other things I can try (stronger optimization, fiddling with that setting to see if I can get it to work), but I'd really like a WebAudio expert or something to take a look and poke around |
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00:58
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_c64_workbench |
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00:59
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SketchCow |
so, I'm going to do this with regards to the vice.js emulators. |
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01:00
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SketchCow |
We'll have three: vice24, vice32, and vice |
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01:00
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SketchCow |
vice will be canonical, but vice24 and vice32 will use the two variations. |
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01:02
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Sgeo_ |
Makes sense |
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01:04
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SketchCow |
Also, for 32, we're going to do an experiment with resolution |
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01:04
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SketchCow |
I want to halve it and see what hapens |
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01:04
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SketchCow |
"-soundfragsize", "2", "-soundrate", "22050", "-soundsync", "0" |
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01:04
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SketchCow |
Was that the setting for the original? |
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01:04
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SketchCow |
(I should just go check) |
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01:05
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SketchCow |
-soundsync', 0, '-soundrate', 22050, '-soundfragsize', 2 |
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01:05
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SketchCow |
yes |
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01:07
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SketchCow |
OK, so |
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01:07
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SketchCow |
There's now a "vice24" emulator |
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01:07
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SketchCow |
And a "vice32" emulator |
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01:07
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SketchCow |
And there's CURRENTLY a "vice" emulator that's "vice24 without sound" |
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01:34
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SketchCow |
So I wrote a script called BOOTCAMP |
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01:34
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SketchCow |
Here is how it will work. |
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01:34
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SketchCow |
it checks all the screenshots |
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01:34
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SketchCow |
If they're ALL the boring boot color and never boot, that item will go into the workbench |
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01:34
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SketchCow |
(I.e., it never really boots) |
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01:35
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SketchCow |
This will make the collection more usable. |
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01:35
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SketchCow |
I will also then switch it over to the "good" one with sound, currently vice24 |
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01:37
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Vito` |
Browsers want specific sound sample rates, so that might be the origin of 22050, check what Emularity sets MAME to for that |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
var SAMPLE_RATE = (function () { |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
var audio_ctx = window.AudioContext || window.webkitAudioContext || false; |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
if (!audio_ctx) { |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
return false; |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
} |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
var sample = new audio_ctx; |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
return sample.sampleRate.toString(); |
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01:39
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SketchCow |
}()); |
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01:40
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SketchCow |
if (muted) { |
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01:40
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SketchCow |
args.push('-sound', 'none'); |
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01:40
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SketchCow |
} else if (sample_rate) { |
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01:40
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SketchCow |
args.push('-samplerate', sample_rate); |
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01:40
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SketchCow |
} |
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01:40
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Sgeo_ |
fwiw, library_sdl.js (Emscripten's SDL1 implementation) has a few hardcoded possibilities for sample rates, 22050 and 48000 are two of them |
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01:52
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SketchCow |
The "is it boring" checker is working. |
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02:04
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SketchCow |
My vice24 emulator is not, but I'm sure it's my mess. |
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02:07
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Sgeo_ |
Now compiling with -O3 and without -g (debugging info). Not with closure yet because that looks like a pain to set up, but that will be my next step |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
Could you link me to the "original" vice.js you had? (The one off 2.4) |
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02:17
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SketchCow |
I think I have the crackly version going right now. |
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02:18
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Sgeo_ |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rjanicek/vice.js/master/js/x64.js |
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02:19
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SketchCow |
Hopefully that fixes it! |
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02:20
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Sgeo_ |
The original was crackly too, just not as bad |
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02:26
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SketchCow |
Yeah, OK, things are good |
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02:26
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SketchCow |
SO! |
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02:27
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SketchCow |
- If it has good screenshots, it sets the emulator to vice24 |
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02:27
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SketchCow |
- If it has no screenshots, skip |
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02:27
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SketchCow |
- If it has boring screenshots (never booted, some false positives) throw it at the workbench |
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02:27
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_c64_workbench has lots of false positives but I can do those in a sweep easily. |
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02:28
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_c64_games?&sort=titleSorter&page=1 is MUCH more coherent. |
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02:28
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SketchCow |
Next, I have to write something that says "Is one of the screenshots not the one with the boot color? Make THAT the cover shot." |
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03:18
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Sgeo_ |
Found a broken one, let me see if.... oh, it's a side B |
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05:08
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Sgeo_ |
db48x, what plans are there for multiple disk metadata in Emularity? |
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05:09
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Sgeo_ |
and buttons to switch disks? |
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06:22
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db48x |
the plan is to eventually come up with a plan |
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06:22
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db48x |
really, the bulk of the work is in the emulators themselves, rather than in Emularity |
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06:23
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db48x |
I'd like Emularity to have a pretty decent UI for showing what disks it currently knows about and whether the emulator is using them or not |
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06:24
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db48x |
and for letting the user create new ones (appropriately-formatted blank ones, or uploads, or pulling them from urls, etc) |
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06:25
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db48x |
but whatever happens, incrementalism wins the day |
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06:25
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db48x |
if you want to have a button that flips between two disks, and nothing else, then go for it |
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14:17
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SketchCow |
Yeah, if we got swapping working in VICE, great, although I would say the sound issue is more important. |
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14:17
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SketchCow |
So, I have the screenshotting cleaning working nicely now. |
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14:17
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SketchCow |
- It shoves all-blue things to another collection. |
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14:18
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SketchCow |
- It goes through the remaining ones where the blue gets put as the "cover" and finds a non-blue cover, if any |
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14:18
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SketchCow |
Most importantly, it doesn't need me. |
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15:52
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SketchCow |
db48x: We already have gameboy working in Emularity. |
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15:53
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SketchCow |
The only argument here is if he means "I want to use your loader for a different gameboy emulator than MAME" |
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15:53
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db48x |
really? I couldn't find it |
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15:54
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db48x |
(I assumed MAME supports it) |
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15:54
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/demo_is_that_a_demo_in_your_pocket_2015 is regular |
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15:54
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SketchCow |
Ah, I see I didn't turn it on |
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15:56
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db48x |
I don't know why I couldn't find that |
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15:56
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db48x |
it doesn't even have an obscure name |
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15:58
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SketchCow |
It's the Ketamine |
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15:58
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SketchCow |
C64 screenshots are down to Co.. on games. |
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15:59
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SketchCow |
And my script that fixes the screenshots knows how to tell it's already done the work. |
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16:00
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_c64_games?&sort=titleSorter is looking damn fine now. |
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16:00
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SketchCow |
There's a few to be fixed but it's running, like, 1 out of 50 at most. |
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17:46
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/Cosmic_Life_1983_Spinnaker_Software.prg is proof that .PRG files will work in our system |
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17:46
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SketchCow |
Of course, I then have the hellscape of "is it already up as a d64" |
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18:09
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SketchCow |
So, there's no fucking way we're going to be able to keep the lid on the C64 thing through October 3rd when I announce it from the stage. |
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18:09
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SketchCow |
I'll do my best but I think it'll just hit. |
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18:12
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SketchCow |
Sgeo_: The system is now in place and all basically working - we have vice24 as the emulator after something gets screenshot so it "works" |
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18:12
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SketchCow |
I'm using this as my marker for my scripts of "Good breakpoint - it's a functioning thing, albeit on the 'old' Vice version" |
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18:13
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SketchCow |
It's just going to be screenshotting to the end of time now - it's tens of thousands of items. I can do things like aim at a limited thing like Educational or Shoot 'em Up Kit and so on so we have complete collections. |
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18:13
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SketchCow |
And as mentioned above, I've written scripts to do some basic Quality checking on the screenshots so they look good, etc. |
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19:04
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SketchCow |
db48x: Can you do a glowing compile for apple2p? |
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19:30
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db48x |
sure, one moment |
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19:35
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db48x |
I have no apple2p.json |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
That's fine |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
As long as it goes up, I can generate those and pull them back |
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19:39
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db48x |
I can't build it without a json file |
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20:26
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SketchCow |
!! |
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20:27
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bai |
I Have No Apple2p.json And I Must Build |
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22:41
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db48x |
ok, I guessed and built an apple2p |