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Sgeo_ |
Do we care about hidden stuff other than telling people how to get them? For example (the only example I know of really) the 10 Years HVSC disk has an additional song on it that's not a part of the main program, so currently reachable by hard restarting the emulator in the F12 menu, then writing the appropriate BASIC commands |
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00:53
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SketchCow |
I am not particularly focused on that, no |
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00:53
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SketchCow |
But I'm happy to add such metadata to the item with instructions. |
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01:16
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1048017789884067840 |
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01:16
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SketchCow |
There we gooooo |
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01:42
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, :D |
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01:53
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Sgeo |
Vaguely contemplating allowing uploads/downloads into the in-browser FS. Wondering if I should put that in the VICE menu, or if that's too annoying to use |
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01:53
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Sgeo |
I should probably be thinking about networking for the Neohabitat people |
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02:09
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bai |
Sgeo: BrowserFS allows for all sorts of fun stuff like that, you can set up either a memory-backed or localstorage-backed union filesystem |
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02:10
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bai |
so you can mount the base disk image via zip or whatever, and then map certain directories to various types of storage - there are even adapters for services like dropbox |
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02:12
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SketchCow |
Please ignore the inevitable bitchers |
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02:12
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SketchCow |
When they arrive |
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02:14
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Sgeo |
I wonder what's causing the stuttering when switching tabs, and if it's fixable, or if not, maybe autopause |
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02:15
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Sgeo |
Do the other emulators do that? |
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02:16
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* |
Sgeo goes to test |
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02:16
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Sgeo |
DOSBox is fine when switching elsewhere, hmm |
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02:23
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Sgeo |
vice24.js doesn't break in this manner, it looks like. Emscripten change? |
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02:23
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Sgeo |
bai, do you happen to know if there was any change in how Emscripten behaves when the tab doesn't have focus? |
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02:25
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bai |
I haven't been following latest developments closely enough to know |
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02:35
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Sgeo |
Hmm... DOSBox doesn't seem to use requestAnimationFrame at all. VICE32.js does |
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02:48
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Sgeo |
I just substituted requestAnimationFrame with a simple shim based on setTimeout, no more stuttering when backgrounded |
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02:49
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Sgeo |
I wouldn't want to do that in production I think |
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03:03
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Sgeo |
RIP kmalloc |
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03:04
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Sgeo |
VM abruptly died. Really, really hate working in a VM |
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03:04
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Sgeo |
I did hear stuttering with that shim eventually |
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03:30
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bai |
hmm. actually have you verified if maybe requestAnimationFrame itself is what's stuttering? I seem to remember seeing a stutter introduced to rAF several versions back which I've probably just learned to ignore now |
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03:38
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Sgeo |
I've verified that replacing rAF with a fake version mostly stops the stuttering. Being backgrounded does cause setTimeout to slow down, and that has stuttered a bit but not as frequently/reliably |
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03:40
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Sgeo |
Alt-W toggles warp but also brings up LastPass |
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03:42
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Sgeo |
I don't know if a page would be allowed to disable extension stuff like that |
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03:42
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Sgeo |
The obvious way certainly doesn't work |
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03:46
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Sgeo |
I was hoping to be able to build from a VirtualBox shared directory. I have now given up in that goal |
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03:46
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Sgeo |
Would have been so convenient |
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04:46
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Sgeo |
Here's a fun experiment. Type the following into the browser on the page of a game before starting the emulator, then try a game that usually takes a while to load. |
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04:47
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Sgeo |
window.requestAnimationFrame = window.setTimeout; |
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04:47
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Sgeo |
(in the JS console) |
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05:23
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Sgeo |
"Swap joystick ports" abruptly and unexpectedly dies in IA and on my site. In my newest build, it works, and I have no idea why |
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05:43
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SketchCow |
Sgeo: Does media switching work now? |
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05:44
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, ...I'm confused because it's been working for me for a while. bai reported a problem with alt-n, and I have no idea how to solve that |
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05:45
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bai |
I did? |
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05:46
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Sgeo |
oops, db48x not you |
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05:46
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Sgeo |
Sorry |
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05:46
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bai |
ah ok :D was wondering if I was just losing it |
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06:58
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Sgeo |
Possible enhancements: Support for external button to switch disks, or reorganizing the F12 menu to make it easier to find the next disk option. |
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06:58
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Sgeo |
But as-is, if Alt-N doesn't work, the menu does exist |
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17:51
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SketchCow |
:) |
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17:51
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SketchCow |
I apologize for being scatterbrained and weird |
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18:22
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SketchCow |
So.... is the Alt-N option only available in a new version? |
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18:22
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SketchCow |
Sgeo: Is there a download link for me to test it? |
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18:23
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SketchCow |
(Since literally tens of thousands of people are now playing :) |
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18:24
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Sgeo|web |
It should be in the vice-resid that's already on IA for a while |
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18:30
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Sgeo|web |
If Alt-N doesn't work because of weird browserness, the same operation is in F12 -> Drive -> Fliplist settings -> Attach next image in fliplist |
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18:36
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SketchCow |
Yeah, but I want to make sure ALT-N work. |
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18:36
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SketchCow |
(Works) |
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18:36
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SketchCow |
Let me move two disks together into one item. |
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18:37
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Sgeo|web |
The relevant metadata item is vice_drive_8_fliplist, which should list the disks in order separated by ; and starting with the starting disk (because the next operation skips the first entry, because VICE) |
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18:44
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Sgeo|web |
db48x's issue seemed to be that his browser wasn't recognizing the alt key or allowing it to be sent to web pages. Not sure what was going on there |
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18:58
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SketchCow |
OK, so it needs that fliplist |
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21:38
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Sgeo|web |
There's a polyfill for a way to get calls faster than setTimeout. I think replacing rAF with that would result in much faster execution. I'd rather see if I can have that replacement only occur during warp mode, though. |
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21:38
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Sgeo|web |
https://github.com/YuzuJS/setImmediate |
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22:36
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SketchCow |
That's pretty sweep |
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22:36
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SketchCow |
sweet |
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22:39
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SketchCow |
How do you plug it in |
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22:43
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Sgeo_ |
The lazy way for current testing would be to throw that entire js file into the console, then window.requestAnimationFrame = window.setImmediate; |
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22:44
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Sgeo_ |
The real way would substitute some JS in Emscripten to conditonally make use of it instead of setImmediate. |
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22:44
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SketchCow |
Going to try it with a http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin |
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22:47
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SketchCow |
http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/jaguar/newjaguar/ |
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22:47
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SketchCow |
I couldn't do it, can you do it? |
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22:48
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Sgeo_ |
Just tried in the console here, it loaded quite quickly, https://archive.org/details/10_Years_HVSC_2006-11-28_HVSC_Crew_Side_A |
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22:48
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Sgeo_ |
Before launching emulator, go to devtools console. Paste in the code in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/YuzuJS/setImmediate/master/setImmediate.js |
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22:49
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Sgeo_ |
Then paste in the following: window.requestAnimationFrame = window.setImmediate; |
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22:49
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Sgeo_ |
Then run |
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22:52
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SketchCow |
I paste it and it goes "undefined" |
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22:54
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Sgeo_ |
That should be fine, as long as the emulation still runs |
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22:54
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Sgeo_ |
Neither expression gives a result |
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22:54
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Sgeo_ |
(other than changing global variables |
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22:55
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SketchCow |
In your opinion, can you make it work in http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/jaguar/newjaguar/ ? |
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22:55
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Sgeo_ |
In unrelated news, https://i.imgur.com/WwFRTMq.png |
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23:08
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Sgeo_ |
SketchCow, still sounds choppy :( |
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