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01:05
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SketchCow |
You have to either tell me what to do, or ask db48x if he's done it |
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01:06
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, add "-config", "/emulator/vice.conf" to extra_args in vice-resid.json |
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01:10
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SketchCow |
Sgeo: It';s in, it should show up soon |
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01:10
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SketchCow |
Hopefully stuff doesn't explode |
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01:10
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, thank you |
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01:11
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Sgeo |
People trying to save their configs and finding it actually persists (for the page) doesn't count as exploding, right? |
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01:12
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db48x |
I think that's the opposite of exploding |
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01:13
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Sgeo |
(It won't work for items that have their own vice.conf yet) |
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01:22
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Sgeo |
Testing new build process |
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01:30
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SketchCow |
Hey, where's that cute pet js I can shove into the archive |
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01:36
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Sgeo |
http://sgeo.github.io/experimental/vice32/xpet.js |
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01:48
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SketchCow |
Here we go |
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01:50
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/Space_Invaders_19xx_- is failing, but I'm sure I'm missing something obvious |
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01:52
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Sgeo |
SketchCow, it needed time I think |
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01:52
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Sgeo |
Oh now it's failing because it doesn't know what -joydev2 1 means |
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01:52
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Sgeo |
Remove that |
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01:54
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SketchCow |
OK. Replacing |
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01:56
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Sgeo |
https://github.com/Sgeo/vice32.js/commit/be5b18ed511a219a53a2ac01824224f459490e02 is the new build process. It's a lot simpler |
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01:56
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Sgeo |
rjanicek did a lot of unnecessary work |
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02:02
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SketchCow |
Well, to be fair, we all did a ton of unnecessary work. |
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02:03
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SketchCow |
Because it wasn't even clear it was POSSIBLE |
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02:03
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SketchCow |
So, speaking of unnecessary |
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02:03
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/Space_Invaders_19xx_- |
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02:03
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SketchCow |
It "works" |
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02:03
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SketchCow |
But I think there's a missing statement or something or another |
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02:10
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Sgeo |
What model is this game for? |
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02:10
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SketchCow |
No idea! |
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02:10
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SketchCow |
I'm downloading the newest TOSEC set now just to see what's up |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
OK, newest TOSEC is same as old TOSEC |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
What's there is there. |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
So, I'm going to make a PET collection and shove it all in there. |
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02:18
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SketchCow |
OK, going to put all the .prg files in here. |
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02:18
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_pet |
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02:20
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SketchCow |
Filling now. |
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02:21
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Sgeo |
I got Space Invaders to run by changing to 4032 and changing autostart mode to inject |
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02:22
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Sgeo |
(And then typing run) |
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02:22
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Sgeo |
The numpad is working to move and I don't know why (can't be joystick). I don't know how to fire |
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02:23
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SketchCow |
Yeah, it's obvious it should be running a different model. |
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02:23
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SketchCow |
What changes do I do to the json |
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02:24
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Sgeo |
Changing the json for that would affect all PET programs. vice.conf lets you do things per-item |
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02:25
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SketchCow |
Tell me what to put in the vice.conf and I'll give them all a little boop on the nose |
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02:30
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Sgeo |
https://hastebin.com/oceqivobit.ini |
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02:35
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SketchCow |
Not sure it's "taking" |
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02:36
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/Space_Invaders_19xx_- has the vice |
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02:37
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Sgeo |
Ah oops... https://archive.org/details/Space_Invaders_19xx_-&external_js=1 |
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02:37
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SketchCow |
Nice |
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02:37
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Sgeo |
The Emularity part of the change still needs to go through |
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02:38
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Sgeo |
Also a bit inaccurate to call it a "Game file" I guess |
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02:38
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SketchCow |
The "A" key fires, by the way |
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02:39
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Sgeo |
Incidentally I doubled the size of the window, was too small without doing that |
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02:41
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Sgeo |
ty |
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02:44
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SketchCow |
OK, I'm going to shove this vice.conf in everything, then we can modify them as we feel we need to. |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
There we go! |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
This is awesome, thank you. |
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02:52
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SketchCow |
Once that load happens, even better |
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02:53
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02:56
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03:06
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SketchCow |
Anyway, I'm a happy moron now |
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03:31
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Sgeo |
It looks like those games disks have multiple games on them. Ideally it would be easier for people to use if there was a menu program as the first program on the disk, but I'm not sure if those exist for PET. As-is, a user just clicking run will run just the first program unless they restart and load another one |
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04:11
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DFJustin |
so I'll point out mame has a perfectly good pet |
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04:12
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SketchCow |
I really, really like how VICE does Commodore |
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04:12
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SketchCow |
I'm all for us compiling and putting up MAME Pet |
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04:13
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SketchCow |
Also, why I name the Emularity emulation "vice-pet" to avoid conflict |
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04:13
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SketchCow |
By the way: http://teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org/FINISHED/flanf.html |
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04:13
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SketchCow |
That shows a screengrab from Commodore screenshotting every 7 seconds or so |
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04:30
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Sgeo |
At what point do I give up on stereo music and just upload with mono output? |
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04:37
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Sgeo |
BTW I have plans to add file download, upload, and deletion to the emulator's menus |
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04:37
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Sgeo |
(Deletion will help when we get file persistence... an easy way to force a redownload from the server. Although that may not be obvious to people, hmm) |
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04:48
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04:49
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06:12
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Sgeo |
Incidentally, VICE's PET emulation is annoying in at least one way: They never made a correct symbolic keymap for SDL VICE for PET |
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06:13
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Sgeo |
So there's no setting to get " to be ", unless you make the keymap yourself |
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06:15
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Sgeo |
At least not as far as I can tell |
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08:03
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08:05
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08:41
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15:56
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DFJustin |
https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/Synthesizers |
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16:57
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18:20
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18:31
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SketchCow |
DFJustin: Looking forward |
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18:34
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SketchCow |
for what it's worth, the biggie would be a Yamaha DX7 |
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18:37
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SketchCow |
Although the Ensoniq Mirage is hot pie too |
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18:46
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Vito` |
hi sorry |
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18:47
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Vito` |
how do you know those things |
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18:47
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SketchCow |
whut |
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18:47
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Vito` |
like do you have an inbox with a bunch of emails from musicians asking for specific synths, or did you also have a past life as a producer, or what |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
Second |
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18:48
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Vito` |
nice |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
I took courses to be an audio production mixer, even. I almost majored in it |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
Switched to film at the last moment |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
Because, and I was RIGHT, music was almost all inside and film was inside and outside |
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18:49
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SketchCow |
DX7 is a powerhouse, the NES of musicianship |
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18:49
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SketchCow |
Everyone had one, some still do |
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18:49
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SketchCow |
Patches hoarded like dragon's gold |
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18:55
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shattered |
the Fairlight was working at one time in mame |
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18:56
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shattered |
I guess that's in the wiki :) |
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18:57
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shattered |
and PPG Waveterm (not the Wave itself) sort of works |
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19:01
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ted |
heh |
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19:02
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ted |
i bet you could build a pretty cool collection emulating the Fairlight |
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19:02
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SketchCow |
ted: Hey now |
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19:02
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ted |
i watched http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2018/05/19/this-history-of-the-orchestral-hit-or-stravinksy-does-hip-hop/ a few months ago |
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19:02
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SketchCow |
Now that Chrome has successfully outdone Firefox as Shit Of The Month |
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19:02
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ted |
i had no idea how influential it was in music production! |
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19:02
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ted |
SketchCow: hah! what's up? |
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19:03
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SketchCow |
So, I have this weeeeeird question about.... MIDI in the browser. |
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19:03
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SketchCow |
Anything out there? Anything you know about? |
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19:03
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SketchCow |
https://www.midi.org/17-the-mma/99-web-midi seems to be it |
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19:05
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ted |
so yeah, there's a Web MIDI spec |
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19:05
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ted |
and chrome shipped an implementation |
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19:05
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ted |
i've tried it out--i know basically nothing about MIDI but i bought a cheapo $40 USB MIDI keyboard from Amazon and was able to fiddle around with some of the demos in Chrome |
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19:05
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ted |
one of my colleagues (qdot) was interested in implementing it, but IIRC we got hung up on one point |
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19:07
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ted |
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/58 |
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19:07
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ted |
there you go |
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19:07
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ted |
apparently there's a SYSEX message in MIDI, and for some devices it's almost necessary to do anything useful, but for other devices it lets you do things like update firmware |
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19:07
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ted |
which is not a thing you want web pages doing |
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19:10
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ted |
as is not uncommon, google designed and shipped a thing in chrome and we've identified major issues with it and they're sorta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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19:12
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SketchCow |
"This javascript implementation of a Yamaha DX-7 upgraded the firmware of my phone with a rootkit" is how December should go |
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19:14
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shattered |
someone did a midi played in a browser recently, saw that on HN |
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19:18
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shattered |
https://bitmidi.com/ |
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19:19
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ted |
shattered: neat |
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19:19
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ted |
shattered: the WebMIDI spec is basically "how do you let web content talk to MIDI devices connected to your computer?" |
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19:20
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ted |
so using keyboards/etc as MIDI input, and other devices as MIDI output |
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19:20
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ted |
SketchCow: if you're interested in current plans to implement WebMIDI in Firefox and those links don't have the info you want, try qdot on twitter |
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19:21
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SketchCow |
I'm just more like "after we emulate these synths in the browser, can you hook your keyboard to them" |
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19:23
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shattered |
I think someone else made mame into a vst plugin |
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19:23
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DFJustin |
yeah mame itself speaks midi |
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19:27
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SketchCow |
the vice.conf update for loader.js is going in as we speak |
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19:36
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ted |
if mame speaks midi then presumably adding WebMIDI support via emscripten would be feasible |
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19:40
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bai |
funny you should mention that SketchCow....I was using a library, midi.js, to parse and play doom music in my game engine...I was lazy and referenced a hosted version rather than downloading it...then like 6-8 months later I noticed it was just going to town on my CPUs, pegging them all at 100% |
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19:41
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bai |
turns out they'd snuck a js bitcoin miner into the hosted version of the library |
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19:43
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bai |
huh, didn't realize timidity compiled to js was so lightweight, only 34kb of js and 23kb of wasm |
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19:43
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bai |
compiled to wasm, I should say |
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19:54
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21:13
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/vectrex has a bunch of covers I threw in. |
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21:13
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SketchCow |
Going to ask Duncan to do the rest |
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22:36
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Sgeo |
Ooh timidity online? |
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22:37
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Sgeo |
Needs good soundfonts |
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23:40
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Sgeo |
Also :) at loader.js update |