[00:48] <Sgeo> Can emulator_start be blank? Say, for just booting into the default BASIC mode?
[00:53] <bai> I think so?
[00:53] <bai> try it and find out :D
[01:23] <Sgeo> Using the resolution that that vice.js website uses makes the CRT emulation better. Wonder if CRT emulation should be configurable
[01:27] <Sgeo> Looks like IA still recognizes it as an emulator. Empty string is equiv to removing the key, so I need to make my code recognize that condition
[02:05] <Sgeo> A test program I was using was making clicking noises in my experimentation. I just tried it on vice.janicek.co, and it's making clicking noises there too
[03:14] <Sgeo> Going to pause working on getting .zip support to work, probably stuff like sound button takes priority
[03:35] <SketchCow> Hello hey
[03:36] <SketchCow> Let me wake db48x
[03:43] <SketchCow> I flung a bunch of shit in
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[03:51] <SketchCow> Sgeo: Want to avoid you burning out
[03:51] <SketchCow> So I want you to be connected with db48x
[03:51] <SketchCow> For the purposes of this, I see no reason we're not going to use the same approach we do with the other computers that are NOT dosbox. 
[03:52] <SketchCow> I.e. we have d64, prg etc. files in there, not a zip we pull apart.
[03:52] <Sgeo> What do the other approaches do for scenarios where there are multiple files with different extensions?
[03:52] <SketchCow> Uses the first file
[03:53] <SketchCow> The thing is, don't combine in your mind the archival version and the presentation version
[03:54] <Sgeo> Hmm. I suppose, for the one scenario I was thinking of (.crt and .d64 or .prg), the .crt could be hosted somewhere else, ala dosbox_drive_
[03:54] <SketchCow> Yes
[03:54] <SketchCow> All I want to avoid is you work very hard to duplicate something db48x already accounted for
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[03:55] <SketchCow> Our friend who tried this before blew up mostly because I think he was trying a very unstandard method to do things
[03:56] <SketchCow> And then he started chasing the system down intensely
[03:56] <SketchCow> And somewhere in there it came out he's not been able to hold a job since 2000
[03:56] <SketchCow> And then he got very unhappy and claimed IA had hacked his system
[03:56] <SketchCow> So.... lotta stuff there
[03:57] <Sgeo> I'm attempting to fit in within the approach that already exists, I'm not sure if I'm succeeding, need another pair of eyes to check.
[03:57] <SketchCow> Right
[03:57] <SketchCow> I am just working here to make sure you're not building a huge sandcastle
[03:58] <SketchCow> The thing with db48x is he has an odd sleep schedule
[03:58] <SketchCow> But when I get my mitts on him, he'll show up here
[03:58] <SketchCow> Is the speed comparable to https://vice.janicek.co/c64/
[03:59] <Sgeo> I don't have an IRC client on my phone :/, so if I'm away from my computer I can't really chat
[03:59] <Sgeo> It should be, although .d64s seemed to load slowly. Let me check if they load slowly on there too
[04:02] <SketchCow> Obviously, in the long term, I'd like to see the core VICE being emulated to jump from 2.4 to 3.2
[04:02] <SketchCow> Hopefully it won't be horrendous, although more a matter of seeing what internally this fellow did
[04:05] <Sgeo> Hmm. For 20 Years HVSC, LOADing from d64 took much longer on IA then on that website. And then the IA one played the beginning music too fast at first
[04:06] <SketchCow> I simply don't know what you're doing here.
[04:06] <SketchCow> How is it only you can boot it in your test environment?
[04:06] <SketchCow> Do you need some hosting or something else to do it?
[04:07] <Sgeo> Is there a test/staging version of IA? I'm telling my computer to load an emularity file from my computer instead of IA's website
[04:07] <SketchCow> Yes, in fact.
[04:07] <SketchCow> Give me your loader.js
[04:07] <Sgeo> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sgeo/emularity/master/loader.js
[04:08] <SketchCow> OK
[04:10] <SketchCow> https://archive.org/details/20YearsHVSC_test_item&external_js=1
[04:11] <Sgeo> It still says vice-x64
[04:12] <SketchCow> What should I be doing here?
[04:12] <SketchCow> I take it I should rename some files in emularity_engine_v1
[04:12] <Sgeo> https://archive.org/details/icebloxplus_vice_test_1&external_js=1 works without the change on my machine, except for the part where I removed emulator_start and didn't re-add it yet so it shows basic
[04:13] <Sgeo> Or I could change emulator to vice
[04:13] <Sgeo> Submitted metadata change, takes a while
[04:13] <Sgeo> Then the one you linked should work
[04:16] <Sgeo> SketchCow, try now
[04:16] <SketchCow> Yeah, I see it works now
[04:16] <SketchCow> So is it 100% using IA resources?
[04:16] <SketchCow> Or is it calling back to you
[04:16] <Sgeo> 100% IA resources
[04:17] <SketchCow> Encouraging.
[04:17] <SketchCow> I wonder why it looks different on Chrome vs. Firefox
[04:17] <SketchCow> Checking Brave
[04:18] <Sgeo> I didn't test at all on anything other than Chrome, oops
[04:18] <SketchCow> My brave instance seems to look good
[04:18] <Sgeo> How does vice.janicek look in Firefox?
[04:19] <SketchCow> One moment... what's an absolute legend C64 item
[04:20] <SketchCow> Wizball.
[04:30] <SketchCow> https://archive.org/details/WIZBALL_201808&external_js=1
[04:38] <Sgeo> The vice.janicek.co x64.js is different from the one from the vice.js github
[04:38] <SketchCow> Yes
[04:43] <SketchCow> Like I said, I think the ultimate future is just re-doing the port of vice to be the newest version
[04:43] <SketchCow> db48x (who I just harassed on steam) says do a pull request, please
[04:47] <Sgeo> Done
[04:48] <SketchCow> So, what's your thought on forking the vice.js to go to 3.2
[04:48] <Sgeo> I'm in favor in principle but I don't actually know how to use Emscripten.
[04:49] <Sgeo> Other than what I learned of calling into it from Javascript for this
[04:49] <SketchCow> I'll bet bai can help you
[04:57] <SketchCow> But yeah, I think the nice thing about the system is we can make variants on the item
[04:57] <SketchCow> To emulate different types of C64s, especially with the realm of VICE command line settings, especially in the new version
[05:49] <bai> yeah I can help, I'm a bit rusty with emscripten stuff but it's all rattling around somewhere inside my brain cavity
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[06:46] <SketchCow> High approval from db48x for your PR, Sgeo
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[12:47] <Sgeo> SketchCow, yay! :). I think I need to clean up that not yet working .zip section
[14:15] <SketchCow> He sent along changes
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[17:58] <SketchCow> bai: Let's talk about how to approach this best.
[17:58] <SketchCow> First, see if you can compile from the github
[17:58] <SketchCow> https://github.com/rjanicek/vice.js
[18:02] <SketchCow> I have written Richard Janicek to see if he wants to help
[18:02] <SketchCow> Also, bai - opens
[18:02] <SketchCow> ops I mean
[18:04] <SketchCow> His e-mail bounced.
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[18:49] <bai> SketchCow: right now I may be better off in an advisory position - we had our baby a couple nights ago, so I've barely even opened my laptop since we got home
[19:23] <SketchCow> My theory is soon it's you with baby in lap
[19:23] <SketchCow> But that's fine
[19:23] <SketchCow> WHO WANTS TO BE THE COMPILE KEYSTONE
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[23:26] <Sgeo> Should I make a separate issue for each to do item for VICE.js or should I make one that encompasses several things?
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[23:57] <Sgeo_> Well I just spammed the Emularity github with VICE.js issues, some more important than others