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SketchCow |
Hey, it appears IMGMOUNT doesn't work on our thing |
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bai |
hmm |
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05:46
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bai |
I thought I'd used it in the past, for the win95 test you have to boot actual dos 6.22 and that requires mounting an image |
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06:19
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SketchCow |
I can't get it to work |
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06:19
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SketchCow |
Using the right syntax, totally failing |
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06:20
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bai |
is it seeing the img file on the filesystem? what's it doing instead of working? |
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06:28
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SketchCow |
let me show you an easy one |
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06:29
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Shadow_President_1993 |
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06:29
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SketchCow |
Boot it up and try to mount the image in cd |
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06:32
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bai |
hmm, now I have to remember how to inspect the underlying fs |
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06:32
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SketchCow |
I mean, cd to cd |
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06:33
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bai |
yeah I think imgmount wants a path to a file on the underlying fs, not within the dos fs |
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06:33
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SketchCow |
you mean liek /emulator and so on? |
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06:33
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bai |
yeah |
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06:38
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bai |
hmm |
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06:39
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bai |
actually I wonder if this is a case sensitivity thing |
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06:39
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bai |
imgmount might actually be able to work with either case, underlying fs or dos fs, it gives a different error if you specify the .cue file than if you specify an actual missing file |
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06:40
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bai |
in the cue file it references the bin file as "shadpres.BIN" |
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bai |
actually, that is what it is on the underlying fs too, hmm |
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06:40
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SketchCow |
When I do imgmount c or imgmount d it tells me to specify the drive |
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SketchCow |
but I did |
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06:41
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bai |
I'm running "imgmount d shadpres.cue" from within that dir, or "imgmount d /emulator/c/ShadowPr/cd/shadpres.cue" |
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SketchCow |
I mean, imgmount d whatever.cue should at least not say please specify the drive |
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06:41
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bai |
hmm, yeah I don't get that message |
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06:42
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bai |
I get "could not load image file, check that the path is correct and the image is accessible" |
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06:42
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SketchCow |
Oh shit son |
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06:42
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bai |
whereas if I point it at a non-existent file, I get "image file not found" |
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06:42
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SketchCow |
hahahaha |
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06:43
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bai |
which to me implies that it's loading the cue file,. but when it tries to load the bin file it's not able to find it |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
So, MY first problem? Didn't run in cognito |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
it was running the old .zip |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
NICE |
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06:43
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bai |
ahh |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
Wait, before we go further |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
I must show you the ridiculous thing I just wrote |
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06:43
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bai |
sure, I like ridiculous things :D |
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06:43
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SketchCow |
http://fos.textfiles.com/HALO/results.txt |
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06:44
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SketchCow |
In order of newest to oldest, my last 92 games of Halo (when I started tracking) |
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06:44
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bai |
haha I noticed on discord that you were playing halo5, are you scraping your match results? |
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06:44
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SketchCow |
Yes |
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06:44
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bai |
fun |
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06:44
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SketchCow |
And I can do this now: |
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06:45
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SketchCow |
http://fos.textfiles.com/HALO/jonny.txt |
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06:45
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SketchCow |
So I can say REMEMBER and a handle and see before the game starts if we ever played this fuck |
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06:45
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bai |
nice, so when someone starts talking smack you can come back at them with a list of every time you've kicked their ass |
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06:45
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SketchCow |
And who they matched with, and how we do |
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06:45
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SketchCow |
Yes |
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06:45
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SketchCow |
And also know what we're up against |
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06:46
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SketchCow |
ANYWAY |
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06:46
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bai |
reminds me of the old battlefield stats site, for battlefield 2 |
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06:46
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SketchCow |
Enough of this wasteful grepping of scrapes of Halo games, let's talk about getting CD-ROM images working in 20 year old DOS games |
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06:46
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SketchCow |
Priorities, man |
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06:47
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bai |
I sucked https://www.bf2hub.com/stats/43405586 |
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06:47
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SketchCow |
Found it. |
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06:48
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SketchCow |
imgmount d ./SHADPRES.BIN -t iso |
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bai |
ahh ok, of course you have to tell it that your bin/cue file is an iso, that makes perfect sense |
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06:48
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bai |
(but now that you mention it yes I do recall that being a thing I banged my head into back last time I tried it) |
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06:56
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SketchCow |
Hahaha |
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06:56
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SketchCow |
I got Full Throttle running |
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SketchCow |
And it's murdering that laptop |
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06:56
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SketchCow |
That laptop is literally exploding |
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06:57
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SketchCow |
Afraid to turn on the sound |
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06:57
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SketchCow |
They say when you die you fight all the animals you ate |
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06:57
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SketchCow |
No, |
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06:57
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SketchCow |
I will fight this laptop |
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bai |
nice |
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06:57
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bai |
url me, I wanna try :D |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Full_Throttle_1995 |
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SketchCow |
You have to imgmount of course |
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07:00
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SketchCow |
So, just to explain what's going on. |
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07:00
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SketchCow |
eXoDOS 4 came out. |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/eXoDOS_4 |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
And in it are all the items I used to do the DOS software library in the first place |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
eXo was always pissed I ignored all his dosbox.confs and all the rest. |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
And he's right, of coruse |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
Anyway, I have this workbench |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_workbench |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
So in theory I could |
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07:01
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SketchCow |
- Replace the .zip |
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07:02
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SketchCow |
- Make minor change to dosbox.conf |
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07:02
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SketchCow |
- Boom fixed. |
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07:02
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SketchCow |
But I need to study them first, and maybe write helper scripts to mod dosbox.conf or whatever. |
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07:07
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bai |
hmm, doesn't dosbox basically try to load custom dosbox.conf files from just about every directory it ever reads from, or am I thinking of mame? |
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07:07
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SketchCow |
It does |
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07:07
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SketchCow |
But his thing assumes a /games directory, etc. |
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07:07
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bai |
like with mame I think you can pretty much throw a custom mame.ini into any directory, either alongside the rom or in the root directory or whatever, but I can't remember dosbox's rules |
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07:07
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bai |
ah ok |
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07:08
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SketchCow |
Also, though |
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07:08
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SketchCow |
He added this... thing |
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07:08
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SketchCow |
https://ia801407.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/31/items/eXoDOS_4/%21DOSmetadata.zip |
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07:09
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bai |
haha I'm an idiot |
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07:09
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bai |
I just sat here watching the game file progress bar download all 640 megs of the iso |
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07:10
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bai |
only to realize it wasn't downloading the file, I was watching screenshots of it having downloaded the file |
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07:13
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SketchCow |
Nice |
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07:13
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SketchCow |
Anyway, I think this is doable |
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07:13
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bai |
full throttle's running great on my desktop |
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07:14
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SketchCow |
Is it? |
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07:14
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bai |
yeah. smooth audio and video |
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07:14
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bai |
game hasn't started, just the intro cutscene |
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bai |
https://i.imgur.com/yogXdge.png |
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SketchCow |
Is it working |
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07:23
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bai |
yup, seems perfect |
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07:24
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bai |
https://i.imgur.com/5aNfgJK.png |
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07:24
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SketchCow |
So what do you think is the best fix. |
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07:24
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SketchCow |
Create a new custom .BAT and shove it in? |
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07:25
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SketchCow |
I'm trying to see if he has an external .BAT he shoves in |
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07:25
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bai |
yeah I think that's probably the most straightforward |
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bai |
it does take a good 20 seconds or so to mount the image, during which time it feels frozen |
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07:26
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bai |
so maybe something as simple as an 'echo "Please wait, mounting image..."' or something in the bat file |
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07:27
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bai |
hmm, I killed it somehow, I'd alt tabbed a few times without problem, but this time it did a sound crash loop for a few seconds and then went silent |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Full_Throttle_1995 |
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07:30
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SketchCow |
I did prove I can swap out the screenshot though |
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07:35
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SketchCow |
OK, well |
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07:35
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SketchCow |
I look at these, and I see they "pretty much" work |
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07:35
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SketchCow |
Like, I found where he keeps the dosconf and where he keeps his crazy batch files, etc. |
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07:35
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bai |
do you want a .bat file for full throttle or is it more of a "figure out how to do it in a scriptable way" kind of deal |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
I want to really see if there's some shoreup we can do |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
Because yeah, you can I can get full throttle working in... 5-10 minutes |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
But these are 800 broke-ass things |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
Most needing a CD |
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07:36
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bai |
yeah |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
I think some of these can be fixed with the thing being pushed a ways along |
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07:36
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SketchCow |
And then we get my discord to play the games |
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07:36
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bai |
at least doing it for one is the first step on the way to getting a solution that'll work for hopefully 80% of those |
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07:37
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bai |
full throttle is also picking the wrong exe, that's solved with the .bat but we'd need to generate .bat files for each item |
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07:38
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SketchCow |
".\dosbox\dosbox.exe" -conf ".\Games\!dos\fullt\dosbox.conf" -noconsole -exit |
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SketchCow |
[sdl] |
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SketchCow |
fullscreen=false |
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SketchCow |
fulldouble=false |
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SketchCow |
fullresolution=0x0 |
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SketchCow |
windowresolution=1280x960 |
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SketchCow |
output=overlay |
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SketchCow |
mapperfile=mapper.map |
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SketchCow |
[dosbox] |
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SketchCow |
machine=svga_s3 |
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SketchCow |
memsize=32 |
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SketchCow |
[render] |
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SketchCow |
aspect=true |
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SketchCow |
scaler=normal2x |
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SketchCow |
[cpu] |
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07:39
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SketchCow |
core=auto |
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SketchCow |
cputype=auto |
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SketchCow |
cycles=35000 |
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SketchCow |
[mixer] |
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SketchCow |
[midi] |
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SketchCow |
[sblaster] |
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SketchCow |
irq=5 |
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SketchCow |
[gus] |
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SketchCow |
[speaker] |
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SketchCow |
[joystick] |
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SketchCow |
[serial] |
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SketchCow |
[dos] |
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SketchCow |
[ipx] |
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SketchCow |
[autoexec] |
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SketchCow |
cd .. |
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SketchCow |
@cd .. |
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07:39
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SketchCow |
mount c .\Games\fullt |
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SketchCow |
imgmount d .\Games\fullt\cd\fullt.cue -t cdrom |
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SketchCow |
c: |
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07:39
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SketchCow |
cd throttle |
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SketchCow |
cls |
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SketchCow |
@THROTTLE |
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SketchCow |
exit |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
See? |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
I bet if we remove .\Games\, it'll just work |
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07:40
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bai |
oh ok, nevermind then :D |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
So yeah |
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07:40
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bai |
yeah if it's all in the .conf files we're golden |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
If I can, I'll write something |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
And then we'll get 800 more games working |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
Plus a bunch we never put up, etc. |
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07:40
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bai |
an alternative would be to just change which directory we mount the .zip under |
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07:40
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bai |
so that our filesystem matches his |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
THAT is too much work |
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07:41
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bai |
yeah it's probably more convoluted than just doing a bulk replace :D |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
Adding some crazy whackass exception into the loader |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
That fucks us later |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
Because it becomes the default, or hits a wall, or isn't set in certain situations |
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07:41
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SketchCow |
As opposed to a sed the dosconf gets |
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07:42
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bai |
well, I know at a certain level it's just a matter of changing a single string in a config option that's passed to DosboxLoader during init, but yeah, it's the part where we take it from archive.org item metadata to that where it gets all wobbly |
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SketchCow |
Right |
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07:50
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SketchCow |
Going to bed before I get sucked into this. |
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SketchCow |
But I bet I can start experimenting. |
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SketchCow |
I have to write something to clean out the old screenshots and stuff anyway. |
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SketchCow |
OK, starting to make the fixup utilities. |
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SketchCow |
(Obviously, the current screenshots within the thing need to die no matter what.) |
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SketchCow |
It's not much, it's a halting step, but: |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Star_Lord_1987Keith_Cox |
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SketchCow |
Took me 15 minutes. |
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SketchCow |
The speed is now right, has a screenshot, works. |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/msdos_One-on-One_1984 |
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SketchCow |
OK, now going to go backwards from "most viewed on the collection" |
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SketchCow |
i.e. most wanted |
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