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03:52
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JesseW |
Medowar: do you (or anyone else) have any more specific suggestions about alternates to the current URLteam wiki page? |
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03:53
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JesseW |
I think luckcolor suggested google docs. |
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03:54
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JesseW |
I'll suggest keeping it on the wiki, but breaking it up into smaller pages (with them all transcoded into one big page that can be looked at only when needed (i.e. for searching)) |
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03:57
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JesseW |
hoblu-es started |
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04:01
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JesseW |
got results |
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04:01
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JesseW |
hoblu-es got results, including single character ones |
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04:02
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JesseW |
Medowar: pops.ci doesn't resolve for me. How did you get the results you mentioned for it? |
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04:27
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JesseW |
http://pastebin.com/z0yiN4ju -- now added to wiki |
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04:31
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JesseW |
http://pastebin.com/raw/3aS6mq3P and http://pastebin.com/raw/GTBg7BL7 copied into wiki, but not integrated yet |
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04:31
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JesseW |
but now at least if pastebin.com blows them up, we have a copy |
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05:09
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JesseW |
I just finally got around to removing a few hundred (!) duplicates from the lists-to-be-integrated |
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06:09
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08:26
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bwn |
i like the idea of breaking the urlteam wiki up with an amalgamated view |
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09:10
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Medowar |
root@mrslnx01:~# dig +short pops.ci |
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09:10
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Medowar |
74.217.253.90 |
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09:10
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Medowar |
root@mrslnx01:~# curl -I pops.ci/Q0dFvW |
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09:10
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Medowar |
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Content-Length: 0 |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Server: post/2.0 |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Pragma: no-cache |
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09:10
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Medowar |
P3p: CP="PSAo PSDo OUR BUS DSP NON COR" |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:10:34 GMT |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Expires: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:50:44 GMT |
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09:10
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Medowar |
Cache-control: private, no-cache, no-cache=Set-Cookie, proxy-revalidate |
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09:11
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Medowar |
Set-cookie: puid_v2=_lcXa6cK0XKGkV-kw_GBu-6vkA; Expires=Tue, 28-Jun-2016 09:10:34 GMT; Path=/; Domain=pops.ci; Version=1 |
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09:11
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Medowar |
Location: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-02/worlds-first-programmable-nanoprocessor-takes-complex-circuitry-nanoscale |
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09:11
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Medowar |
Connection: close |
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09:11
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Medowar |
whoops |
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09:11
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Medowar |
well, pops.ci does work for me |
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09:17
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luckcolor |
JesseW status update on the url Unshortner for archived shortners: currently implementing database lookup of an entry |
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09:17
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luckcolor |
If i manage to finish it the way i want it |
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09:18
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luckcolor |
it would support: Aliases for same shorner es bit.ly |
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09:18
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Medowar |
nice. |
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09:19
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luckcolor |
Large datasets using orizontal scalability (running the same software on different machines in case the dataset becomes big) |
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09:19
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Medowar |
How big is the bitly database right now? |
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09:19
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luckcolor |
mmh |
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09:19
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luckcolor |
dunno i'll lookup the archive.org collection |
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09:20
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luckcolor |
well it's not ready yet |
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09:20
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luckcolor |
:P |
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09:20
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luckcolor |
on the todo list: |
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09:20
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luckcolor |
implement database lokup |
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09:20
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luckcolor |
implement database creatiion by parsing an input file |
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09:21
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luckcolor |
i will probably not support the urlteam format for import if there isn't a libary (i'll check) |
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09:21
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luckcolor |
i will just make it so it imports text files with shortcode|resolved url |
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09:22
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luckcolor |
it will be trivial i suppose to normalize database dump for import |
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09:23
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Medowar |
please add quotationmarks around the resolved url, I have seen some crazy shit like pipes in urls. |
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09:24
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luckcolor |
mmh i'll see about that :) i'm not at that phase yet |
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09:25
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luckcolor |
i should get around to ask archive to make a repo on the github when i'm done |
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09:25
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Medowar |
JesseW: not sure if it works for that scale, but maybe trello. Allows easy organisation, categorisation, collaboration |
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09:26
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luckcolor |
or slack |
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09:26
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luckcolor |
it has plugins for every possible service |
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09:26
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luckcolor |
including trello |
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09:27
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luckcolor |
but it will be a redundant chat as slack has it own chat |
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09:27
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luckcolor |
a bot bridge to irc can be made i suppose |
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09:33
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Medowar |
I dont see the advantage of slack. Slack is just a fancier chat app, right? |
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09:34
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Medowar |
trello is more a board to organise tasks. |
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09:34
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Medowar |
And also there is wekan, an self-hosted alternative to trello |
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09:34
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luckcolor |
mmh |
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09:35
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luckcolor |
https://github.com/wekan/wekan |
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09:36
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luckcolor |
well you can just deploy it for free on heroku so i think we can give it a go |
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11:45
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Medowar |
they also have docker |
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11:45
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Medowar |
I have started an test instance |
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11:45
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Medowar |
http://sv1.ggsrv.de:8080 |
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11:47
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Medowar |
http://sv1.ggsrv.de:8080/b/27wpoGMGreb7TfCGo/urlteam |
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11:54
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Medowar |
looks pretty solid, I think we can get all the infos we want into that. But please, join and give feedback. PM me your name if you are registered, so I can give permission. THis is just a testboard, not ment to be final |
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13:40
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luckcolor |
Guys can someone do me a favor? |
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13:41
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luckcolor |
On my spreadsheet of the dead url shortners can you add per service all the avaible links to the dumps we have? |
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JW_work |
I don't know of any way to make global text modifications (like I did last night) on Trello. If you can get it working, great, but I'm doubtful. And I agree that Slack seems like a non-starter. |
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JW_work |
luckcolor: I'll try to remember to do that tonight. You could just download the lists of files for all the incremental ones, and identify the ones you want from that ( the files are named per-project) |
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Medowar |
JW_Work: I doubt, that we´d need a huge chunk of the edits you did with the new system. Why bother sorting in alphabetic order, when you can use search function. True, some of the work cant be done in trello but if we keep a continous format on titles, the majority of work would be as easy to do as right now. |
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15:41
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Medowar |
and creating cards for each shortener makes it easier to track the progress. |
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15:41
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Medowar |
But maybe you are right. We shouldnt completely abandon the current system. Maybe use a combination of both. |
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15:44
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Medowar |
Use the wiki as full list of all shorteners and use trello as tracking plattform for active projects. This way you still can do the mass editing but also beeing able of tracking the progress of certain cards |
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JW_work |
You can use search right now |
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JW_work |
The point of alphebetical order is to make *diffs* useful (by providing a definitive location) |
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JW_work |
AFAIK, trello doesn't support diffs much at all. That's a deal breaker, if so. |
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Medowar |
what exactly do you use diffs for? |
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JW_work |
To see what used to have been said about a shortener, or what changes someone else made, etc. |
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15:47
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JW_work |
Version control is a *good* thing — I'm unenthusiastic about losing it. |
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15:48
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Medowar |
tracking changes: Progress sidebar. history of a shortener: each card has an activity stream. |
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15:49
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Medowar |
afk 3 hrs, driving home, germany vs ireland |
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15:49
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JW_work |
enjoy the drive |
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JW_work |
that's better — but it doesn't track what columns a card was in, does it? |
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JW_work |
also, what's the backup situation — is it easy to extract the content? |
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JW_work |
and how searchable is it — currently, all the data is easily findable in search engines, which I think is a good thing — is trello as easily findable that way? |
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luckcolor |
as about data backup it's using mongoDB as the databse instance |
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luckcolor |
atleast that's what the Dockerfile says |
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luckcolor |
so dumps can be done |
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luckcolor |
and diffs made i suppose |
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luckcolor |
you can actually directly query the database it has a json api |
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19:19
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Medowar |
that is depending on how we realize it. If we use trello direct or a self hosted wekan instance, which is basically the same, only self hosted |
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19:19
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Medowar |
also JW_work, it does track what items have been moved. |
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JW_work |
ok, that may be sufficient change tracking, then |
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Medowar |
and wekan has a direct api as mentioned: |
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Medowar |
<luckcolor> you can actually directly query the database it has a json api |
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19:21
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Medowar |
http://sv1.ggsrv.de:8080/api/boards/27wpoGMGreb7TfCGo?authToken=0T7bSmiusakkqbu9t5NKf88c9XZmveq2O98VRbUWMRU |
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JW_work |
It's still a lot less visible to search engines, though, no? |
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Medowar |
in what context? everything can be direct linked, if that is what you mean |
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19:23
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Medowar |
how google treats it in terms of pagerank? No idea |
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19:25
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Medowar |
also you can make it public or private |
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20:22
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JW_work |
it's farther from plain text, as such, it's harder for straightforward search engines to understand |
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luckcolor |
Wel Medowar i meant the MongoDB has apis but yeah if wekan has apis then good |
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