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Terbium |
oshura: i finished my guide https://gist.github.com/HeliosLHC/cf3264c8d65b4680474ac13bcc6d0384 |
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Terbium |
oshura: do you happen to use windows? |
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oshura__ |
indeed I do @Terbium |
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Terbium |
i recommend Method 2 in the guide for you then |
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oshura__ |
This looks pretty amazing. Solid work! I'll try it out here in about 5 minutes |
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Terbium |
i glossed over a lot of stuff otherwise it will take me too much time |
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oshura__ |
holy cow, if that's you glossing over stuff, I can only imagine what it's like when you go into detail lol. This is fantastic work indeed |
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oshura__ |
I'm trying it out. Just give me a sec to see what I can get |
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Terbium |
oshura__: updated some info, you may want to refresh |
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oshura__ |
I'm having issues figureing out what you updated lol |
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Terbium |
forgot step 8 on method 2 lol |
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oshura__ |
you put start your vm twice though... |
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oshura__ |
although, all I was missing is to be able to get into the shell and find out the addr through ip addr |
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Terbium |
oh yes, i just saw that, fixed... |
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oshura__ |
now I think I should be ok |
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oshura__ |
let me try it again |
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Terbium |
its kinda janky as unfortunatelly the boot scripts don't show the VM's ip address on start, just some info on how to open the warrior interface |
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Terbium |
if you VM starts up too fast, you'll also miss the startup output with the DHCP assigned ip address |
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which is why getting the IP is kinda convoluted :/ |
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oshura__ |
that's exactly what I was missing all along. I'm pretty sure it worked!!! |
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is there a way to have both the NAT adapter as well as the bridged adapter so that you can still see the traffic on your own computer as well as one outside? or will that break it? (I'm going to try to find out real quick( |
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Terbium |
im planning to add this info to the AT wiki once i get an account setup to help other out |
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Terbium |
im kinda confused as to what you mean by "you can still see the traffic on your own computer as well as one outside"? |
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oshura__ |
This is fantastic. Between this and the work that Wingy is doing, this is going to be awesome for those of us newbs lol |
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Terbium |
if you mean "you can still see the traffic on your own compute" by still being able to view "localhost:8001" on bridge mode, then no. With bridge mode , port forwarding is disabled. And NAT and bridge mode can't be combined |
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Question: the udhcpc address at the start up of the VM does not match the ip on ip addr |
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why? |
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Terbium |
that's odd :/, it should unless i wasn't paying close enough attention which is possible lol, lemme test again |
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oshura__ |
it may not. It may be because I'm trying to do the localhost and outside access at the same time |
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oshura__ |
Well, first test results: if you make two adapters for the VM with the first being NAT and the second being bridged, it lets you access localhost:8001 from self computer but won't let you access from outside (or maybe at least I don't think it will) |
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Terbium |
oh if you have two adapters the NAT will give the IP 10.0.2.15 (vbox default) |
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Terbium |
i never tested 2 adapters, but "ip addr" will show you if it successfully gets IP from both NAT adapter (10.0.2.15) and the Bridged Adapter (LAN_SUBNET IP) |
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oshura__ |
I was able to get the 10.0.2.15 addr but I can't tell if I got an outside address |
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oshura__ |
the goal would be to discover the configuration which would allow one to both check the warrior from a separate computer on the same network while simultaneously checking from one's localhost's browser |
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oshura__ |
Ok, so if you make two adapters (one bridge and the second nat) the first adapter the bridge it gives you an external IP (which I can access from another computer) but I cannot access from local host, even after making sure that I set up the port forwarding rules the same as they were before messing with the settings |
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oshura__ |
@Terbium: so that's my input, I hope that helps to narrow down the search. |
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Terbium |
thanks for the info oshura__ , if i have time i'll look into it |
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Terbium |
updated the AT wiki to link to this gist for those who was to access the warrior interface from another device |
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oshura__ |
@Terbium, did you write in there the caveat that if you follow method 2, you won't be able to access the warrior from your localhost based on strictly those instructions? I'll keep playing around and see if I can figure it out for about another 20 minutes |
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Terbium |
oh good point i'll add that |
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oshura__ |
I think what's happening, is that when we add the capability to access warrior from outside, it is changing the addr that the code was originally pointing to thereby breaking whatever "link" which enables one to go to `localhost:8001` and see the warrior from one's own computer. |
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oshura__ |
unfortunately @Terbium, I am not a coder so I am just making an uneducated guess as to where I would start looking if I knew what the heck I was doing lol |
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oshura__: just looked into it, did the reverse adapter order of what u did, it appears with ADAPTER1 as NAT and ADAPTER2 as bridged (an eth0 and eth1 interface in the VM is created), udhcpc assigns the NAT provided IP 10.0.2.15 to eth0 network interface but udhcpc doesnt get an IP for eth1 from bridged. Manually running udhcpc on eth1 to get IP fails to give it an LAN ip address. will require some more digging to figure out what went wrong |
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Terbium |
with the 2nd interface (eth1) being disconnected. |
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Terbium |
for what its worth i personally dont find much value in have both NAT and bridged (apart from the minor convenience, but to each their own. Someone more knowledgeable with VBox might know how to map 2 adapters to 2 VM network interfaces :P. |
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oshura-m |
I have found the same thing in my testing. The only reason for me wanting to do this currently is that I have my laptop running the warrior in one room but it’s attached to an external so I don’t burn out the SSD. As a result I can’t walk around with it , so if I want to check the progress, it means I have to come all the way back to the laptop to see how it’s doing. Being able to check from either at the same time would make my |
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oshura-m |
life easier. Especially with a 7 month old lol |
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oshura-m |
I hope we have someone who may know in our group here. I’m going to bed for now. Thanks for looking into it |
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Terbium |
you should be able to view the interface on the same laptop using the VM's IP + port 8001. The hostname for the VM is actually "warrior" so going to "http://warrior:8001" might actually work (works for me, but it just might be my network setup tho) and avoid the need to get the IP address in the first place. |
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Terbium |
assuming you're running only bridge mode ^ |
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oshura__ |
right now I'm able to see both an external IP addr and the local 127.0.0.1 addr through ~ip addr | grep ###` |
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oshura__ |
which is interesting |
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oshura__ |
I'll try what you say real quick |
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oshura__ |
ok, so solution: if going bridged only, you can just use http://VM's IP:8001 to see the local machine (which is exactly what I was hoping for) |
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the only thing is that you need to keep a sharp eye during the loading screen to see what the udhcpc addr is or else you'll have to scan your network to figure out what that IP addr is |
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Terbium |
Yep, thats the reason i found having both NAT and bridged kind of pointlesd aside from having to remember the vm's ip |
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oshura__ |
I tried using `http://warrior:8001` without luck sadly |
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Terbium |
You can set a static ip address on your router |
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oshura__ |
yep. I'll have to do that for now |
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oshura__ |
I'm only haing a couple issues which can wait for another day (just trying to figure out how to make sure that my data is being ran from my external HDD for my pis sO I don't burn out my sd card) and something else I am too tired to think about now. Hope this little experiment helps someone in the near future @Terbium |
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Terbium |
If you are internet you can tinker with your router's DNS config to give it a local domain name, but ill stop bothering you now with networking stuff xD |
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Terbium |
Interested* |
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oshura__ |
I am interested indeed |
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Terbium |
it really depends on your router's firmware and whether it has that feature. If own windows you can edit your hosts file to map a domain name to a IP |
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Terbium |
you can make up any domain name you want and map it to your VMs ip (assuming its static) |
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Terbium |
then you can use your custom domain instead of your IP |
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Terbium |
but youll have to modify all the hosts files in the devices with wish to access the warrior from (difficult on mobile devices) |
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oshura__ |
I would just need to have it for my daily driver. For the phones, once it's on there, I just have to make sure to not close out the tab |
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Terbium |
Heres a guide if you dont know how https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/27350/beginner-geek-how-to-edit-your-hosts-file/ |
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Terbium |
Each line is a mapping, the domain can be whatever you want |
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oshura__ |
that's pretty fascinating stuff |
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Terbium |
Its essentially "poor man's DNS" for those too lazy to setup their dns like i was for a time |
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Terbium |
Also lets you block ads by mapping advertisement domains to 0.0.0.0 so it always fails |
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Terbium |
Though everyone mostly uses ublock or pihole etc nowadays for adblocking |
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Terbium |
hosts files were the original lazy mans way to block ads by having a massive hosts file to block hundreds of thousands of ad domains |
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oshura__ |
This is something I want to pick your brain on, just not today. My brain is saying bed time. I sincerely appreciate you taking some time to impart some of that wisdom, honest |
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oshura__ |
a thought for tomorrow: can a router have a hosts file with "thousands of ad domains" to be blocked? |
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oshura__ |
kinda likea pihole |
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I'm going to bed. Later everyone |
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