| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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09:46
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Nemo_bis |
underscor: what's the status of your downloads and uploads? |
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09:46
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Nemo_bis |
I've finished all mine |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
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17:23
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emijrp |
Hello, |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
It is a very good thing to backup websites as you never know when they |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
One of our site staff discovered your wiki backup project yesterday. |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
offline all the time. In each case, we only put up our saved content |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
will go offline. We do this a bit because Ultima Online fansites go |
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17:23
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|
emijrp |
when the site is gone. |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
However, you list all the wiki archives for anyone to download while |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
already over the past few years. Of course we are unhappy to see the |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
the websites are still online. Our site has been copied a few times |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
this. |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
work of our members used for others gain. Some take great offense to |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
The problem I have is when someone now searches for UOGuide, one of |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
either like the archive of our site to be made inaccessible until such |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
the top results is a link to the archive you have made. We would |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
Let me know what can be done. Thank you. |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
a time the site is offline for good. If this is not possible then I |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
request our archive to be deleted. |
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17:24
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|
emijrp |
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17:57
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chronomex |
What's the license on their wiki? |
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18:27
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SketchCow |
I'll drop it out of the search engine. Give me the details |
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18:27
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SketchCow |
the itemname |
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18:45
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|
emijrp |
SketchCow: http://archive.org/details/wiki-uoguidecom |
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18:45
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|
emijrp |
chronomex: no details about license, not a creative common AFAIK |
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18:46
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|
emijrp |
if it were a Creative Commons i will reply: NO. |
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19:27
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SketchCow |
Please inform mr. whiny he is out of the search engine. If he still shows up in a day or two, please inform us and we will shift it so it can't be found by search engines and is not indexed. |
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19:28
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SketchCow |
Optionally, you can tell him I was not for doing this, but his girlfriend was as good as the rest of the team says and I was convinced |
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19:38
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chronomex |
lol |
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19:39
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balrog |
SketchCow: tbh it is true that the link appears in the first page of google results |
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19:40
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balrog |
which is what I think he was complaining about |
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19:41
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chronomex |
Archiveteam != Google |
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19:41
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chronomex |
buuuut exceptions can be made. |
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19:51
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|
emijrp |
yes, IA is very high on google results in these cases |
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19:53
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|
emijrp |
SketchCow: replied, BCC you a |
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19:53
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|
emijrp |
-a |
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19:53
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balrog |
I think his issue here is with google indexing, not AT |
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19:54
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|
balrog |
err, IA |
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20:26
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SketchCow |
saw |
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21:40
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Nemo_bis |
I see people are noticing the dumps :p |
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21:40
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chronomex |
<3 |
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21:41
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Nemo_bis |
I thought it was first result on Google |
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21:41
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Nemo_bis |
it's 10th here, can't see what he's complaining about O_o |
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21:42
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balrog |
Nemo_bis: it's in the first page |
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21:42
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balrog |
someone who wants to clone the site can easily find it, and he says people have cloned his site before :( |
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21:43
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Nemo_bis |
ridiculous |
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21:43
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balrog |
honestly? I'm unsurprised |
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21:43
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Nemo_bis |
someone who wants to clone the site surely know about export in MW |
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21:43
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balrog |
of course, but dumps make it easier |
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21:43
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Nemo_bis |
not quite |
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21:43
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|
Nemo_bis |
that wiki takes just a few mins to download |
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21:44
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Nemo_bis |
he should disable API and Special:Export if that's his worry |
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21:44
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Nemo_bis |
But of course I'm not going to tell him! |
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21:44
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Nemo_bis |
I hate when people do so. |
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21:45
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balrog |
is it still possible to scrape when they do so? |
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21:55
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Nemo_bis |
balrog: it's very difficult to prevent scraping with MediaWiki :p |
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21:56
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chronomex |
hehe :D |
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21:56
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Nemo_bis |
one could still use action=raw |
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21:56
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chronomex |
you can turn off history, if you're a dick |
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21:56
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balrog |
that sorta defeats the point of a wiki if you do that |
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21:56
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chronomex |
not entirely |
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21:56
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Nemo_bis |
you can disable action=raw |
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21:56
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chronomex |
some places turn off history viewing |
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21:56
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Nemo_bis |
and restrict action=edit to registered users |
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21:57
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|
balrog |
yeah... I can see that |
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21:57
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balrog |
btw what does wikia use? |
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21:57
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balrog |
there are a lot of wikis on wikia... |
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21:57
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Nemo_bis |
normal |
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21:57
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balrog |
so MW? |
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21:57
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|
Nemo_bis |
they do produce dumps |
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21:57
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|
Nemo_bis |
yes, a heavily patched version |
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21:58
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|
balrog |
oh, http://themacelite.wikidot.com needs to be backed up |
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21:58
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|
balrog |
including the files linked on the downloads page |
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21:58
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|
balrog |
the latter is easy, just wget http://campahunta.free.fr with warc |
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21:58
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|
balrog |
well |
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21:58
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|
balrog |
some files are there, others are on the wiki |