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qwebirc47 |
Hello guys, LyricWiki was recently closed. I just want to ask if the dump https://archive.org/details/wiki-lyricsfandomcom is complete or not?Was the wiki locked before the archived was made and lasted until the day it was closed? |
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qwebirc47 |
Also, is there any change I'll be able to download the wiki's images?(I was running the wikiteam tools for the past fiew days but couldn't fininsh the archive.) Thanks for considering my request btw. |
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JAA |
qwebirc47: Hmm, the Wayback Machine snapshots show that the 'is currently closed for editing' message on the homepage was already present before that dump: https://web.archive.org/web/20200204063025/https://lyrics.fandom.com/wiki/LyricWiki |
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JAA |
However, https://web.archive.org/web/20200821150630/https://lyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity suggests that there were still edits being made last month. |
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JAA |
So I'd say it's probably incomplete. |
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JAA |
Regarding images, I have no idea. |
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JAA |
But if you stay around, someone else might be able to answer that. |
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qwebirc47 |
Too bad then:( How about the official dump? They said they can't provide the dump afte closure. I followed the url scheme on Special:Statistics and went to https://s3.amazonaws.com/wikia_xml_dumps/l/ly/lyrics_pages_full.xml.7z but still no luck. |
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qwebirc47 |
JAA, do you know how I can contact you guys afterwards? Is there like a Discord group instead of IRC? |
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JAA |
There isn't (https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/Discord). You can come back here, and there are public logs where you can see what happened while you were disconnected: http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_logs |
01:48
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JAA |
Good point on those dumps though. I hadn't heard of these before, but they're known (and mentioned on our wiki page for Wikia). I wonder how well they're archived as it seems that Wikia/Fandom may block the download at any time, obviously. |
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qwebirc47 |
Maybe the mods of the wikis had downloaded their hard work before it was shut down? |
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JAA |
Possibly. You'd have to ask them though. |
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qwebirc47 |
Thanks JAA, then are you guys having plans for a Telegram group? |
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JAA |
I hope not. |
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JAA |
IRC has been working very well for us, and most other suggested approaches have significant downsides. I don't see us moving to another protocol anytime soon, although we will be moving to another IRC network soon. |
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qwebirc47 |
Ok got it. Thanks again JAA, have a nice day. I'll be contacting the mods of lyricwiki later. |
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JAA |
Good luck! |
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Nemo_bis |
Yes LyricsWiki was already frozen when that dump was made and IIRC I had checked it was complete. |
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JAA |
Huh |
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JAA |
I wonder why Special:WikiActivity still showed edits then. |
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Nemo_bis |
To be honest that wiki is probably the least useful in the world to dump because the copyright status is a mess. |
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JAA |
Or was that a frozen page, as in 'last edit 2 days before the freeze' rather than '2 days ago'? |
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Nemo_bis |
I don't know but Wikia-specific special pages are not to be trusted too much. |
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JAA |
Yeah, definitely a lot more useful wikis out there on Wikia. |
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Nemo_bis |
I think privileged users could still edit and do some things (as on Wikimedia closed wikis) but if they did it wasn't anything significant. |
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JAA |
Right |
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Nemo_bis |
Probably the wiki was closed because people kept asking corrections and removals. |
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