#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-19,Tue

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Kazanyone able to load https://status.ovh.net/ ? [00:34]
JAAYeah, working fine for me.
I was just thinking "lol, not again".
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Kaznvm, loads fine without https for me
not sure why i got redirected to https at all
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JAAOh yeah [00:35]
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ola_norsksome of these things going to hell? "MASSIVE LAYOFFS IN MEDIA - IS MAINSTREAM MEDIA DYING?" https://youtu.be/f_U919gSj7w
i don't know what mashable is...
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maybe someone could look more into it? it sure as hell would be a pleas..hame if buzzfeed went away [02:17]
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wbradleyola_norsk, timcast is baaaasically a conspiracy theorist. i mean not really, cuz he's got some reality in there, but two seconds looking at his ALL CAPS warnings of DOOMSDAY (scheduled for today? did it happen?) makes it clear that he should be taken with at least one or two grains of salt. [03:59]
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odemgWho can knock Archivist off the top of the leaderboard? https://the-eye.eu/leaderboards/ [06:49]
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godaneSketchCow: so when is the next box of tapes are coming? [17:37]
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Specularreceived a /colorful/ pm in more ways than one [17:48]
dd0a13f37ola_norsk: http://blog.archive.is/post/154930531126/if-someone-was-willing-to-make-a
Specular: do tell
https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate - "archiveis currently receives €31.75 per week."
http://blog.archive.is/post/151510917631/how-do-you-guys-keep-the-lights-on-i-gave-the - "It requires about $3500-4000/mo (only for the servers, not counting worktime, etc)."
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Specularshould have screencapped it. Used a wild blended pattern of IRC background/text color along with putting out a challenge to out-flood some dude on some other channel, with expletives thrown in the mix.
knew it would have to be bad but the donations really are abysmal for what they do and the costs...
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dd0a13f37He's said he's interested in uploading a siterip to archive.org [17:55]
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dd0a13f37or, uploading a siterip at least, he doesn't like archive.org [17:57]
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SketchCowgodane: I'll be coordinating with Mank to get it done. [17:59]
Specularyeah, I've have to imagine it would only be as that given one of the goals of .is was ignoring the robots.txt [18:01]
dd0a13f37You could upload the raw data and then people can access web.archive.org/DATE/archive.is/XXXXX
But that might be a bit of trouble. As long as the data is in harbor, you have "infinite" time to do things like that
http://blog.archive.is/post/135290609791/thank-you-so-much-for-what-you-do-question-any
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Specularthe weird thing is I remember following the election and various controversy IA mentioned they wanted to focus on archiving news and other relevant pages more yet exclusions really do get in the way of that as it puts the power of censorship back in the hands of the sites [18:06]
dd0a13f37archive.org is popular to use as paywall remover, if they'd ignore robots they might piss some people with large amounts of money off [18:07]
SketchCowFOS seems to be in better shape now.
Partially because S3 has its crap together again
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jrwrlol
did we kill the S3 ingress :)
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SketchCowNo, it committed suicide due to the power outage [18:10]
jrwrAh
Hows the wiki coming :)
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Specularcould have sworn it was discussed here a while back but what were the thoughts on webrecorder.io? I used it to save a Twitter user's timeline by manually scrolling as it captured the content. Seemed to be a more accurate method of capturing pages than I've seen on IA for ex. [18:11]
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jrwrheadless chrome should be looked into for the archivebot [18:11]
SketchCowWebrecorder is a different group. [18:12]
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SketchCowI mean, research, sure [18:13]
JAAjrwr: PurpleSym is working on that, in case you didn't know it yet. [18:13]
jrwrI didn't [18:13]
JAABut it seems that we'll need a WARC MITM proxy to get the raw data.
The Chromium DevTools Protocol doesn't expose that.
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jrwrah
dont you just need full response headers and content?
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JAAYes, but exactly as the server sent it, not in reassembled form.
Also, transport encoding is stripped.
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jrwrHrm, Firefox has a headless mode now too [18:15]
JAAYep [18:16]
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ircd.choopa.net sets mode: +oo svchfoo1 JAA
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dd0a13f37JAA: can't you use chromium's proxy settings [18:21]
godaneSketchCow: how is Mank?
*who
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jrwrhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QQhcwvCx/image.png
put that one in the archive
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dd0a13f37http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK/torrents_implementation
8:39 PM if we're okay with some degree of centralization the problems in the last paragraph of "a simplification" can be solved
opentracker is bandwidth limited, if you have 100 mbit/s you can serve millions of peers without problems
you then have a http server serving torrents that need seeding
the clients then gets N unique torrents from it
for example, you have space for 500 torrents available, you GET https://someserver.com/t/500
and it sends a targz file or whatever
or a torrent containing some other torrents to save on bandwidth, the torrent client can have some special additions to deselect some files
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JAAdd0a13f37: HTTPS is where it gets tricky. [21:45]
dd0a13f37These could be static files regenerated once an hour, served via nginx or something similar. [21:46]
JAAI was talking about the Chromium-based archival tool. [21:48]
dd0a13f37Seems easy. Add a self-signed root certificate and one of those SSL MITM proxies
and disable hsts
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godaneso i bought some tapes on ebay
19.99 with free shipping
21 tapes
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