#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-29,Fri

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JAAsecond: Oh, just remembered that you pinged me in #archiveteam last night. Getting such a WARC into the WM shouldn't be a problem in general, I think. Just upload it with mediatype:web and wait for approval. Make sure to document clearly what you did in the description. And please share whatever code you write to achieve that selenium+warcproxy setup; which browser are you planning to use with it? [04:05]
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astridoh hey cool i found some warcs on my old disk array that never made it to IA
bunch of stuff actually
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SketchCowFeel free to try to go after pineapplefund
But bear in mind he apparently cited Archive Team in the $1mil to Archive.org
And he is ONLY donating to registered nonprofits
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HCross2How does one change the default warrior project? [09:28]
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jrwrSketchCow: we could use more burst power at times
HCross2: someone with tracker admin does
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schbiridanyone into collecting music scene releases? let's collaborate [13:53]
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HCross2jrwr: I've got admin but I can't seem to do it [14:24]
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jrwrschbirid: we need to get the entire dump from demoscene radio [14:49]
schbiridjrwr: i meant piracy scene ;) [14:49]
jrwrOH
lol
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schbiridi realised how managable it would be, up to 2011 it was just ~80TB
nowadays ~50GB per day
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JAAWe need to grab the Cakewalk downloads manually as they require an account. Random example that ArchiveBot just attempted: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Download/1794
No idea whether there are any further barriers, like having to register the corresponding product with them first or whatever.
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godaneSketchCow: we are up to 2017-09-30 with kpfa
also tagesschau is up to 1997-07-16
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SketchCowGreat [20:39]
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ola_norskif indeed IA ran out of storagespace, what would/could the consquences be?
temporary limiting of people to archive items?
that being said, i'm happy to see the donation goal almost reached :D
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Lavernethanks for the reminder, just dropped in my donation :) [21:09]
ola_norski'm kind of hoping the $5 dollars i put into promoting it on minds.com did more than the $5 i actually donated directly
7.302 views vs $5 from some poor sod like me :D
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astridyou mean $20, because of the match [21:12]
ola_norsk? [21:12]
jrwrYa, I tried that route, got a few from reddit to donate, then got yelled at (thinking about it now, I was being dumb) [21:13]
ola_norskjrwr: getting yelled at is a kind of donation i guess :D [21:14]
jrwrlol [21:14]
ola_norskmartyrdom etc
they wont be yelling the day reddit closes it's doors
"jrwr, the Noah of Reddit"
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jrwrlol
Ah, Well if you didnt see I quotes scott a little too hard :)
quoted*
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ola_norskfor some wierd reason, people think stuff is going to stick around forever or that new is _always_ better..
in a extreme hypothetical situation; What good is a seedbank, if the knowledge of how to cultive and farm the seeds are not kept..
without that knowledge, e.g Svalbard Seed Vault is nothing but a grain silo
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jrwrlol
Even now
The internet archive is an interesting issue
see books can be kept at rest for dozens of years, no real active up-keep
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ola_norsknot if deemed "outdated" :/ https://youtu.be/NdZxI3nFVJs
books does require upkeep i would say. Yet those books, at least the content within, could be stored today massively compacted.
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jrwrYa
But its still more money to keep up a digital array of mass media then a collection of books on microfilms
mind you its 10x easier to get to the data on the IA
so theirs that
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ola_norskaye [21:33]
astridsmaller information is more fragile.
and take it to -ot
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jrwrjrwr waits for -ot-ot to exist [21:35]
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secondJAA I used chrome for it but ended up switching to firefox because chrome wasn't caching things
I just restarted it because firefox crashed / froze for whatever reason but I have a list of what urls were hit and which ones weren't so its good
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JAAsecond: Nice. I've been meaning to look into this as well since hearing about Firefox's headless mode (released a few months ago). Definitely interested in your code, playing around with it, and seeing how well it works. :-) [22:03]
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secondJAA its not even headless, it can be but I used the selenium hub with the firefox debug node which has a vnc server so I can watch it do its thing
I do have warc proxy on another server in the US though because the website I'm mirroring blocks certain server blocks
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JAAAh, I see. I mean yeah, that works as well. My use case would be mostly headless though.
Less resources etc.
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