#archiveteam 2013-02-22,Fri

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00:34 🔗 SketchCow red_beard: Thanks
00:34 🔗 SketchCow Damn, we have a lot of work.
01:10 🔗 godane SketchCow: i may try to fix some of the bad scan issues of Electronic Gaming Monthly i have found
01:11 🔗 godane its mostly just triming the white edges
01:16 🔗 SketchCow Thanks.
01:17 🔗 SketchCow OK, so.
01:17 🔗 SketchCow We have this big pile of crap happening.
01:17 🔗 SketchCow We probably need to update the wiki to handle all of them.
01:59 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/2013-02-22-posterous-hostname-list
02:52 🔗 S[h]O[r]T SketchCow, Ocean Quigley looks almost exactly like you to me http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/11/ocean_v2-610x320.jpg
02:53 🔗 S[h]O[r]T (wrong chan, oops)
05:41 🔗 aggrosk Not sure who-all has access to edit the front page of the wiki. The "Ended Projects" section can be updated though. See
05:41 🔗 aggrosk http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page#Updating_.22Ended_Projects.22_Section
06:18 🔗 SketchCow aggrosk: Thanks for this. I'll work on it shortly.
07:12 🔗 godane looks like trailers on g4tv.com was start to move to hd in summer of 2008
08:08 🔗 Steve32 Any plans on salvaging GameSpy?
08:12 🔗 omf_ As SketchCow has pointed out this month suddenly became real fucking busy
08:13 🔗 omf_ I think there are 4-5 sites we are trying to save right nwo
08:20 🔗 Steve32 heh that's pretty gnarly
08:21 🔗 Steve32 I wonder if IGN will somehow import GameSpy's content into its own site
08:30 🔗 omf_ who knows
08:34 🔗 godane i'm also the one trying to save g4
08:34 🔗 omf_ I personally am working on the g4 reviews
08:35 🔗 omf_ speaking of that godane the first test worked
08:35 🔗 omf_ It looks like I can pull all the reviews down with warc data no problem
08:35 🔗 godane anyways i found the first HD video
08:35 🔗 godane can you give your scripts?
08:35 🔗 omf_ was it when you expected
08:40 🔗 Steve32 Been clicking around on GameSpy, getting occasional "Error rendering template: gamespy_review_grid.jsp = com.ign.di.dao.DynamicIndexDAOException:"
08:40 🔗 Steve32 Would be annoying if that happens when downloading the site
08:41 🔗 Steve32 a refresh of the page solved it, perhaps it's getting hammered by more leechers
08:43 🔗 omf_ The is the one variable that is impossible to control. How many other people are trying to download it while you download it
08:44 🔗 godane omf_: can you find the trick to get this file: vids.g4tv.com/videoDB/008/125/video8125/vc14627_ss040114glf_165_0.flv
08:45 🔗 godane there are other videos like this that maybe lost
08:46 🔗 godane also know that video ids are the same based on what waybackmachine has
08:48 🔗 omf_ you using this list: http://wreb.archive.org/stream/g4tv.com-video-url-list-1/video-file-urls.txt
08:50 🔗 omf_ they are 404d
08:52 🔗 godane yes
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12:27 🔗 ersi YAY, FREE MONEY!
12:41 🔗 omf_ chronomex, any luck on that url list for the project repos? I have to build up that list as a skip list to double check that I downloaded the whole site correctly
12:42 🔗 chronomex not yet, thanks for reminding me, stay tuned
12:46 🔗 omf_ Could someone create an src.opensolaris page on the wiki?
12:46 🔗 omf_ I got some data to put up and finishing this site might not be so bad
13:22 🔗 * db48x2 sighs
13:22 🔗 db48x2 http://sitenomore.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/memolane-gives-hours-of-notice-before-shutting-down-service-forever/
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15:37 🔗 ersi I agree totally
15:52 🔗 Smiley ah ze ops.
18:04 🔗 hiker1 Is there a project to archive 1UP, UGO, and Gamespy?
18:06 🔗 hiker1 They are all closing: http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/ign-layoffs/
18:14 🔗 omf_ We know they are going
18:14 🔗 omf_ hiker1, seriously there are like 9 major site closings right fucking now. It is a mess
18:15 🔗 hiker1 What other sites?
18:15 🔗 omf_ 1up, UGO, Gamespy, g4, posterous, opensolaris, memolane,
18:15 🔗 omf_ and a few others
18:15 🔗 omf_ that I cannot remember off the top of my head
18:16 🔗 hiker1 posterous is shutting down? wow
18:16 🔗 omf_ yeah that was the first one we attacked
18:16 🔗 omf_ mapped out 9+ million accounts
18:17 🔗 omf_ opensolaris appears to be pretty small, just needs a little special work
18:24 🔗 omf_ We have a deathwatch and projects page. Why not have a Active Projects page instead of just the blurb on the front page? Not everyone has front page edit access and frankly shit is starting to pop off this month
18:25 🔗 omf_ Can normal users even create new pages themselves?
18:25 🔗 hiker1 We could have an active projects page, and then the main page could embed it
18:26 🔗 omf_ sounds good. You got access to make that happen?
18:42 🔗 hiker1 Nope.
19:23 🔗 omf_ The Deathwatch has been updated.
19:34 🔗 omf_ I started working over gamespy to see what we are going to need to do
19:38 🔗 omf_ has anyone mirrored the forums.g4tv.com shit? Says it is closing on March 18th
19:38 🔗 omf_ which is a bit ahead of the esquire launch
19:40 🔗 godane i'm mirroring it
19:40 🔗 godane i have also mirrored thefeed articles and images
19:40 🔗 godane but will have to update that
19:41 🔗 godane it was around new years eve when i did that
19:41 🔗 omf_ godane, so you got the forums and the videos
19:41 🔗 godane i don't have all videos yet
19:41 🔗 godane but very close
19:41 🔗 omf_ I know, you are working through them
19:41 🔗 godane hd video is what i will never get all of
19:42 🔗 omf_ I am worried most about gamespy
19:42 🔗 omf_ 17 year of gaming history is on there. I am already spidering to build the url list
19:44 🔗 godane its 14 years in the good bye post
19:44 🔗 omf_ they should check the copyright statement
19:44 🔗 omf_ gamespy has been bought and sold so many times the owners probably do not even know what they own
19:45 🔗 omf_ plus the dozens of subdomains
19:46 🔗 godane better spider: http://www.gamespy.com/index/news.html?constraint.month.article.initial_publish_time=12&constraint.year.article.initial_publish_time=2003&constraint.return_all=is_true
19:46 🔗 godane change the month and year
19:48 🔗 omf_ I got 19,000 links so far
19:49 🔗 omf_ this is going to take hours of work to mirror
19:49 🔗 omf_ and I don't me set it and forget it
19:52 🔗 omf_ gamespy has some files hosted locally and others on mediafire. Talk about dropping a toolbox of problems on my head
19:53 🔗 godane mediafile
19:53 🔗 godane *fire
19:53 🔗 godane what the hell?
19:54 🔗 omf_ yeah this is going to be one of the hard sites I have done
19:54 🔗 omf_ shit is everywhere
19:54 🔗 omf_ and we do not know when it is going down
19:55 🔗 godane i was luckly with the g4tv stuff was not like that
19:55 🔗 godane but still alot of g4techtv videos are just gone
19:57 🔗 omf_ The CEO of ziff davis needs to die in a fire
19:58 🔗 godane i was the guy to save all the dl.tv and crankygeeks
19:58 🔗 godane we got luckly with dl.tv
19:59 🔗 godane there videos was hosted on meovid or something
19:59 🔗 godane not just on there site
19:59 🔗 godane problem is i lost dl.tv episode 6
19:59 🔗 godane but i think thats all i have lost
19:59 🔗 omf_ sounds like a pretty complete collection to me
20:00 🔗 godane the first 7 episodes of dl.tv are not on meovid
20:01 🔗 godane Its mevio.com
20:12 🔗 omf_ I have so much rage and the flesh is weak
20:15 🔗 Lord_Nigh omf_: what's happening with src.opensolaris.org btw? you said the source code can be accessed in a better non-web-interfacey way?
20:15 🔗 omf_ yep chronomex is already working it out
20:15 🔗 omf_ basically we just pull the repos down with hg
20:15 🔗 chronomex ^
20:16 🔗 omf_ then compare against the mirror I already made to make sure everything got backed up
20:16 🔗 omf_ the site is small
20:16 🔗 chronomex few hundred repos only
20:17 🔗 omf_ yeah I did berlios in 2 days and that was thousands of repos
20:17 🔗 omf_ So if any wiki admins see this ping me, we need to get some new project pages created
20:19 🔗 godane i think i found more gamepro site stuff
20:20 🔗 omf_ kick ass
20:20 🔗 godane search site:cdn1.gamepro.com
20:20 🔗 godane looks to be pdfs
20:22 🔗 godane wayback machine has only 66 links
20:22 🔗 godane no pdfs
20:24 🔗 godane fuck yes: http://cdn1.gamepro.com/video/podcast/roleplayersrealm/podcast.xml
20:24 🔗 godane i'm grabing that
20:25 🔗 godane we have another collection saved by random searching
20:26 🔗 omf_ I get tons from random searching too
20:26 🔗 omf_ you want to hear a real fucker
20:26 🔗 godane another podcast: http://cdn1.gamepro.com/video/podcast/cultureclub/podcast.xml
20:27 🔗 omf_ 1up.com blocks IA
20:27 🔗 omf_ via robots.txt
20:27 🔗 godane fuck yes again: http://cdn1.gamepro.com/video/podcast/videoreviews/podcast.xml
20:28 🔗 godane gamepro video reviews
20:41 🔗 godane going to bed for now
20:41 🔗 godane will download more gamepro stuff later
20:44 🔗 omf_ I found 43 subdomains that work for gamespy so far
20:44 🔗 omf_ I expect more than that for ign
20:55 🔗 omf_ Right now I think we are seeing the biggest purge of video game history online ever
20:56 🔗 omf_ over 100 separate sites so far
20:58 🔗 Smiley :/
20:59 🔗 S[h]O[r]T guys i have a list of all the gamespy sudomains
20:59 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i can do it for ign too
20:59 🔗 omf_ I need that
20:59 🔗 Smiley :O
20:59 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://doinkdoink.us/gamespy/domain_list-abc.txt
20:59 🔗 omf_ how did you get it
21:00 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://doinkdoink.us/gamespy/domain_list.txt
21:00 🔗 S[h]O[r]T passive dns
21:00 🔗 S[h]O[r]T there are some dupes in the non abc but they are in order of subdomain
21:00 🔗 omf_ good that will save me some serious time
21:01 🔗 omf_ how come we couldn't use that with posterous?
21:01 🔗 S[h]O[r]T you know..i could i didnt think of that
21:01 🔗 S[h]O[r]T let me pull it and ill have closure compare
21:01 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i mentioned the above list in -bs last nght figured i prob should have here, sorry
21:01 🔗 Smiley never mind.
21:02 🔗 Smiley Just made life a lot easier
21:02 🔗 * Smiley notes to always bug S[h]O[r]T about dns
21:02 🔗 omf_ yeah bro you just saved me hours
21:02 🔗 omf_ no worries
21:02 🔗 omf_ okay so my estimate was right, litterally hundreds of fucking domains
21:02 🔗 Smiley i can use *some* bandwidth from work, upto about.... 40Mbit currently
21:03 🔗 Smiley and I have quite a bit of storage, if someone can give me.... *someting* to grab?
21:04 🔗 omf_ I can do that once I figure out the map of this
21:04 🔗 omf_ There are redirect loops and down sites all over the place
21:04 🔗 omf_ think geocities
21:05 🔗 omf_ S[h]O[r]T, how long would it take to make an IGN list
21:06 🔗 Smiley Fri Feb 22 21:06:43 2013 /sbin/ifconfig tun0 192.168.213.86 pointopoint 192.168.213.85 mtu 1500
21:06 🔗 Smiley Fri Feb 22 21:06:43 2013 Linux ifconfig failed: could not execute external program
21:06 🔗 Smiley whoops
21:08 🔗 S[h]O[r]T working on ign now
21:08 🔗 S[h]O[r]T its *.gamespy.com and *.ign.com if theres some other main domain you wantme to pull let me know. will do posterous after
21:09 🔗 omf_ can you do a * in the main domain name
21:09 🔗 omf_ like planet*.com
21:09 🔗 S[h]O[r]T ign has a lot of cname records compare to A
21:11 🔗 S[h]O[r]T no, but all the planets are in there afaik. there isnt a lot. i can lookup all records by their /20 though too
21:11 🔗 omf_ well what I found is there are planet sites that redirect to gamespy or ign subdomains
21:12 🔗 omf_ and then some that do not
21:12 🔗 S[h]O[r]T right but are there any missing planet* in my list?
21:12 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/IGNEN-1/nets
21:12 🔗 omf_ this was found via a few levels of mapping/scraping I did
21:12 🔗 omf_ I am comparing
21:12 🔗 S[h]O[r]T my gamespy is just a records, i can pull CNAMES as well
21:13 🔗 omf_ planetctf.com
21:13 🔗 * Smiley is thinking jolt.
21:13 🔗 omf_ planetcallofcthulhu
21:13 🔗 Smiley lol
21:14 🔗 omf_ mapspy.com
21:14 🔗 omf_ they got sites going back to 1996
21:16 🔗 soultcer S[h]O[r]T: Can you do that dns trick for any site you want?
21:16 🔗 omf_ S[h]O[r]T, I almost forgot could you do 1up.com before posterous. It is one of the 3 gaming sites going down
21:17 🔗 closure posterous uses wildcard dns. You cannot enumerate their domains
21:18 🔗 closure thispoweroussitedoesnotexist.posterous.com has address 184.106.20.99
21:19 🔗 S[h]O[r]T yes soultcer
21:19 🔗 S[h]O[r]T closure passive dns goes off of what people have done dns lookups for
21:20 🔗 Smiley so as long as someone visited a site .... faily recently...
21:21 🔗 closure oic
21:21 🔗 soultcer Sweet, this will make archiving much easier. By passice dns, you mean that ISC db that logs DNS queries?
21:22 🔗 S[h]O[r]T yes
21:22 🔗 Smiley andi f we all use S[h]O[r]T's DNS ;)
21:22 🔗 S[h]O[r]T there are some free passive dns sites out there http://www.bfk.de/bfk_dnslogger.html is a decent one
21:22 🔗 S[h]O[r]T but im going off of the isc one
21:25 🔗 Smiley Right ok, hmmm
21:25 🔗 Smiley when can we start grabbing :D
21:25 🔗 soultcer I thought only members of the ISC get access
21:25 🔗 * Smiley wants to help and feels unhelpful right now :(
21:26 🔗 omf_ Smiley, you want a target
21:26 🔗 Smiley omf_: sadly I'm still more newb than even that
21:26 🔗 Smiley I basically need a wget command,.
21:26 🔗 Smiley else I'm gonna be asking lots more questions :<
21:28 🔗 S[h]O[r]T someone help with posterous :(
21:28 🔗 Smiley hmmm, how ? ;/
21:28 🔗 Smiley got banned, multiple times :D
21:28 🔗 S[h]O[r]T you know much about warc files?
21:28 🔗 Smiley not spectacularly
21:29 🔗 Smiley kind of super hyper atm
21:29 🔗 Smiley with some spare bandwith going.... ooooooo sites
21:29 🔗 S[h]O[r]T we have a somewhat working script for the tracker but im not 100% sure the warc files its outputting or the manual wget ones are right
21:29 🔗 S[h]O[r]T anything i do doesnt seem to work right in alards python warc-proxy. but warc files from postfork load and display fine
21:30 🔗 Smiley isn't there a firefox plug-in now?
21:31 🔗 omf_ okay Posterous goes down April 30th that means I have to set aside the screenshot bot because these gaming sites could be gone tomorrow
21:31 🔗 omf_ never enough time
21:32 🔗 Smiley screenshot bot?
21:32 🔗 omf_ SketchCow, wants a screenshot of each posterous domain
21:32 🔗 omf_ So I have some code that runs a threaded headless browser to screenshot pages
21:33 🔗 S[h]O[r]T is your code done?
21:33 🔗 omf_ once you have the domain list it is pretty straight forward
21:33 🔗 Smiley ....
21:33 🔗 Smiley i think i'm still banned from posterous
21:33 🔗 * Smiley checks
21:33 🔗 omf_ I already did one test run and the output looks good
21:33 🔗 Smiley :<
21:33 🔗 Smiley still banned.
21:34 🔗 omf_ yeah I got unbanned
21:34 🔗 S[h]O[r]T could jsut screenshot off of what we grab in warcs..but ok :p
21:34 🔗 omf_ no rhyme or reason to it
21:34 🔗 Smiley warc-proxy+screenshot bot?
21:34 🔗 Smiley btw why do we want screenshots?
21:34 🔗 omf_ wget does not guarentee it fetches all js and css
21:34 🔗 Smiley omf_: I could screenshot all of ign? :D
21:34 🔗 omf_ it does not get web fonts either
21:35 🔗 omf_ Smiley, not until we at least have a mirror
21:35 🔗 Smiley ahhh ok
21:35 🔗 omf_ also conditional IE shit is ignored too
21:35 🔗 omf_ grabbing a *full* website is not as straight forward as it was 10 years ago
21:35 🔗 omf_ plus wget cannot process js
21:36 🔗 Smiley yah, hense me asking someone to spell out a command for me :/
21:36 🔗 Smiley it's about how far my skills stretch
21:37 🔗 omf_ Many of us are working towards a more prepackaged mirroring solution
21:37 🔗 Smiley nod.
21:37 🔗 omf_ So more people can get stuff and need less technical skill to do it
21:38 🔗 Smiley i guess i'm crying because I feel kind of useless and no matter how much i try, I don't seem to be able to get some things right :D
21:38 🔗 omf_ wait a sec Smiley
21:38 🔗 Smiley I'm good with hardware, but thats no use here :D
21:38 🔗 omf_ godane do you have a list of all the HD urls not done yet?
21:38 🔗 Smiley OOOO yeah I can do that :)
21:38 🔗 Smiley especially if we limit wget a bit.
21:39 🔗 turnkit yeah, please "dumb down the tools" for people who want to help but can't be bothered to learn to be Unix admins / learn all CLI and scripting etc.
21:39 🔗 turnkit thanks
21:39 🔗 Smiley turnkit: hehe i *am* a unix admin :/
21:39 🔗 turnkit lol
21:39 🔗 Smiley however I'm not a coder, and... while I can wget and do stuff, I hate repeating what someone else has already done faster and better.
21:40 🔗 Smiley I'll screw it up 3 or 4 times before getting it right, and in the case of posterous that means getting banned, possibly perm.
21:40 🔗 turnkit I can type 'make' but prefer a Windows GUI. #abomination for sure. But yes, please work on tools for simple archiving helpers.
21:40 🔗 omf_ The heart of it is the logic of the scraper
21:40 🔗 Smiley if someone says to me "Smiley, run : for x in blah do wget blahblah with options xxxxx" then I will happily :)
21:41 🔗 omf_ it needs to be able to make decisions about how to proceed without human feedback
21:41 🔗 Smiley maybe one day I'll understand crazy things like lua, but I'm doubtful :)
21:41 🔗 omf_ like rotating ips, user agents, time outs, caching, file fetching
21:41 🔗 omf_ Testing it takes 10-20x more literal time than writing the software
21:41 🔗 omf_ and this will probably only run in the warrior
21:41 🔗 Smiley nod
21:42 🔗 Smiley hmmm, I have a warrior instance here, but my net here is kind of limited
21:42 🔗 omf_ unless you are comfortable with the Linux of MacOS X command lines
21:42 🔗 Smiley I run gentoo ;D
21:42 🔗 S[h]O[r]T just going to keep all the lists in http://doinkdoink.us/gamespy/ preliminary ign list is there of A records
21:42 🔗 S[h]O[r]T <----gentoo :D
21:43 🔗 omf_ <--- former gentoo for desktop, now I use it for custom servers
21:43 🔗 omf_ you can pack it real small for pxe boot
21:43 🔗 omf_ thanks S[h]O[r]T
21:44 🔗 omf_ are you actually trying to grab gamespy?
21:45 🔗 Smiley ffs why did the warriror just fsck /dev/sda? XD
21:47 🔗 omf_ Smiley, try using this command http://pastebin.com/aH8WtsRe to download the site I keyed in
21:47 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i grabbed a wget archive last night
21:47 🔗 omf_ it is for a warc wget
21:48 🔗 S[h]O[r]T off of...someones command. i think schbirid
21:48 🔗 S[h]O[r]T who is not in this channel under that nick :p
21:48 🔗 Smiley it's going
21:48 🔗 Smiley errrr
21:48 🔗 Smiley how do I rate limit it at least... slightly?
21:48 🔗 omf_ oops that line wasn't pasted
21:48 🔗 Smiley :D
21:49 🔗 omf_ just add this onto the end
21:49 🔗 omf_ --wait
21:49 🔗 omf_ and then the number of seconds
21:49 🔗 omf_ start with 3
21:49 🔗 omf_ or 2
21:49 🔗 Smiley that's not rate limit, but it'll do :P
21:49 🔗 Smiley if its all gonna go at 11kb/s then its not a problem :P
21:50 🔗 Smiley how big might this get?
21:50 🔗 omf_ No idea
21:50 🔗 Smiley :/
21:50 🔗 omf_ They host files
21:50 🔗 Smiley it'll crash if it runs out of space tho :?
21:50 🔗 omf_ but that shit is everywhere
21:50 🔗 omf_ it just stops
21:50 🔗 Smiley If I randomly stop it at some point?
21:50 🔗 omf_ everything up to that point should be good
21:51 🔗 Smiley ok cool, thats fine then ;D
21:51 🔗 Smiley my desktop shoudln't crash from running outta space
21:51 🔗 Smiley its limited to /home/ anyway
21:51 🔗 Smiley just might be a bit crunchy come monday morning.... 200ish gb space
21:52 🔗 Smiley sadly I removed the 1Tb drives from my external connector due to cleaning up :(
21:52 🔗 omf_ I doubt the site is that big but I have no way of knowing
21:52 🔗 omf_ I am still mapping the whole thing out
21:52 🔗 Smiley D:
21:52 🔗 S[h]O[r]T theres lots of videos i havent looked at grabbing them yet
21:52 🔗 omf_ they got files on fileplanet, mediafire, local and other
21:52 🔗 Smiley lol how long have you been mapping for o_O
21:52 🔗 Smiley and will it grab stuff like videos?
21:53 🔗 Smiley surely they are all huge?
21:53 🔗 Smiley --2013-02-22 21:51:57-- http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=POTD.List
21:53 🔗 Smiley Reusing existing connection to planetquake.gamespy.com:80.
21:53 🔗 Smiley HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
21:53 🔗 Smiley Retrying.
21:53 🔗 Smiley random page that doens't work I hope.
21:54 🔗 Smiley ok and finally, where to upload this once its done? :D :S
21:55 🔗 omf_ We should probably create a new channel for this gaming mirrors
21:56 🔗 omf_ anyone have a witty project name?
21:56 🔗 Smiley ign and gamespy are linked right?
21:56 🔗 Smiley #ispygames
21:56 🔗 omf_ yes
21:56 🔗 omf_ ign, gamespy, ugo and 1up
21:57 🔗 Smiley get in there all plz,
21:57 🔗 Smiley iand ill op yall
21:57 🔗 Smiley etc etc
21:59 🔗 Smiley or not :D
22:00 🔗 omf_ Anyone asks me about these sites in here I am just going to point them over there
22:00 🔗 Smiley good
22:00 🔗 Smiley you wanna join tho? :/
22:01 🔗 Smiley I'm the onlyone there
22:34 🔗 hiker1 im here
22:34 🔗 hiker1 i guess
22:36 🔗 Smiley o/
22:36 🔗 Smiley long time no see. come chat in -bs, etc etc
22:41 🔗 hiker1 I joined. My time has been really split lately, but I heard so many sites were giving up the ghost so I got worried :S
22:42 🔗 Smiley ign is dying.
22:42 🔗 Smiley :/
22:42 🔗 Smiley well, its "reforming".
22:42 🔗 Smiley come to #ispygames if you wanna help on that, theres no warriro stuff etc yet./
22:43 🔗 hiker1 As long as companies still have the same employees, restructuring isn't always a bad thing. It might mean we just go to IGN to get all the content, and it might even mean they have more staff to handle even more topics. But I think in this case they layed off staff and it is a bad thing.
22:43 🔗 hiker1 but then they never leave up archives of the old...
22:47 🔗 omf_ zdiff davis has done this to litterally hundreds of sites they own
22:47 🔗 omf_ IGN was corrupt as fuck before they got bought out the first time
22:47 🔗 omf_ It has been a hot mess since
22:47 🔗 hiker1 omf_: does ziffdavis usually delete the old site content?
22:47 🔗 omf_ always
22:47 🔗 omf_ they never keep anything
22:54 🔗 chronomex so classy
23:24 🔗 omf_ I backed up the bulk of memolane's blog and whatever content was still linked in

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