#archiveteam-ot 2018-08-23,Thu

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06:48 🔗 Flashfire And now Julie Bishop has thrown her hat in the ring 👒
06:48 🔗 Flashfire The ABC has confirmed she will be a candidate if a second Liberal leadership vote takes place tomorrow.
06:48 🔗 Flashfire She's pitching to her colleagues that she's the candidate who could save the most seats at the next election.
06:49 🔗 jut May I has context?
06:52 🔗 Flashfire Australian parliament
06:52 🔗 Flashfire Nobody wants Malcolm Turnbull our current pm but we have like no alternatives
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07:55 🔗 Flashfire https://web.archive.org/web/20180822203514/https://www.newsclick.in/will-defence-minister-nirmala-sitharaman-personally-benefit-her-ministrys-decision-open-cantonment
07:55 🔗 Flashfire mention of the wayback machine
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11:53 🔗 JAA Tavis Ormandy is at it again. Ghostscript this time: http://openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2018/08/21/2
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15:23 🔗 schbirid bleh, whatever wpull fork i try, it syntaxerror in "self._stderr_reader = asyncio.async(self._read_stderr())"
15:26 🔗 JAA schbirid: Details? Haven't seen that error before.
15:26 🔗 JAA Which versions of Python and wpull?
15:26 🔗 schbirid not sure, i think my ~/.local is messed up
15:26 🔗 JAA Hmm, asyncio.async... Are you using Python 3.7?
15:28 🔗 JAA Actually, I'm pretty sure that's the issue.
15:28 🔗 JAA "async" was made a keyword in 3.7, so it can no longer be used elsewhere.
15:28 🔗 schbirid JAA: https://pastebin.com/raw/wy8XUGFY
15:28 🔗 schbirid oh dear :D
15:28 🔗 JAA asyncio.async specifically has been deprecated since 3.4.x and replaced by asyncio.ensure_future.
15:28 🔗 JAA So yeah, wpull currently doesn't work on 3.7.
15:29 🔗 JAA You can replace those three occurrences of asyncio.async with asyncio.ensure_future.
15:29 🔗 JAA Or use 3.5/3.6.
15:30 🔗 JAA Actually, only two. One of them is in the test suite, and the test suite is completely broken by that anyway.
15:30 🔗 JAA Because of the wpull.testing.async module.
15:31 🔗 schbirid thx!
15:32 🔗 JAA I added this to my list, will fix it sometime. :-)
15:35 🔗 schbirid Lots Of Love
15:35 🔗 JAA Let me know if you encounter any other issues with 3.7.
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18:49 🔗 JAA Holy shit, Wix is even worse now than last time I looked at it. https://www.openwater.cc/ has over 4000 lines of font definitions in the HTML...
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18:55 🔗 fenn ok so how do i actually save a wix site?
18:56 🔗 JAA Manually with a browser and warcprox, probably.
18:57 🔗 JAA Whether playback will work afterwards is an very different question though.
18:58 🔗 JAA Wix uses POST requests extensively.
18:59 🔗 ivan wayback machine playback is trying to solve a very hard problem that can't actually be solved without old browsers to execute code, it would be useful to have a different class of archiving that just expanded/flattened content which is suitable 99% of the time
18:59 🔗 ivan basically archive.is
19:00 🔗 JAA Yeah, load it in a headless browser, then export the DOM and strip all scripts. I think chromebot actually does that.
19:01 🔗 JAA Links might break though because people use onclick handlers instead of hrefs.
19:02 🔗 JAA And also other things, e.g. lazy-loaded images.
19:02 🔗 JAA In the end, there probably just isn't a way to really archive everything fully, generically.
19:02 🔗 ivan yeah I was hoping that stuff can be fixed up at archival time
19:03 🔗 JAA Good luck with that.
19:03 🔗 ivan the most optimal archiving would be to replicate everyone's databases and steal their code
19:03 🔗 ivan then you can just execute their site as-was
19:05 🔗 ivan wayback machine playback already implies some flattening because you're dealing with server output instead of the server itself
19:05 🔗 JAA Indeed. That would also work for many other things, e.g. game servers.
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23:17 🔗 jrwr man
23:17 🔗 jrwr https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mvxpyn/this-guy-loved-working-at-kmart-so-much-that-he-put-56-hours-of-its-muzak-online-1013
23:17 🔗 jrwr I love the internet
23:30 🔗 jrwr Im watching this on loop while listening to the tapes
23:30 🔗 jrwr https://vimeo.com/channels/beeple/216168912
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