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01:58 🔗 FalconK yipdw: done writing the upload direct to IA code! feel free to take a look at my pull request anytime :)
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07:50 🔗 SketchCow Also object to the interview .Authorgraphs: An Interview With Harlan
07:50 🔗 SketchCow Ellison,. same issue printed and logical pages 38.44, as exceeding the scope
07:50 🔗 SketchCow of permission for the interview; infringing trademark, publicity, and
07:50 🔗 SketchCow related rights under California law; and violating the interviewer.s (Jack
07:50 🔗 SketchCow Gaughan.s) copyright (legal standing on this latter disclaimed)
08:02 🔗 Fletcher ooh
08:08 🔗 SketchCow Harlan and I have been at it for a few years.
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09:43 🔗 midas just dumping this here from #archivebot
09:43 🔗 midas 08:38:51 judgedead | Barnes & Noble is shutting down its NOOK App Store
09:43 🔗 midas | (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/b/nook-apps/_/N-8rc), NOOK Video
09:43 🔗 midas | (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/b/nook-video/_/N-8rj), and the NOOK Store
09:43 🔗 midas | in the UK (http://www.nook.com/gb). Source: http://the-digital-reader.co
09:43 🔗 midas | m/2016/03/03/bn-is-shutting-down-its-second-greatest-digital-blunder-on-
09:43 🔗 midas | 15-march/
09:43 🔗 midas not sure if archivebot can handle it
09:43 🔗 midas and we only have 1 week
09:44 🔗 ersi Nuking the NOOK-Store
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12:35 🔗 Smiley Anyone done lionhead studios yet?
12:38 🔗 midas not as far as i know
12:46 🔗 Smiley i need ops in #archivebot
12:46 🔗 midas you've got it
12:46 🔗 Smiley huh
12:46 🔗 Smiley weird
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15:40 🔗 SketchCow So, passing along to your maniacs is that Code4Lib is streaming on Youtube.
15:40 🔗 SketchCow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DktzmMWAIRM
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15:47 🔗 MrRadar Thanks for the link, they're talking about the necessity of web archives for studying history and the problems of the overabundance of data
15:48 🔗 SketchCow I know. And they're mentioning our work
15:49 🔗 SketchCow I won't spoil the conference stream telling you which people hate me
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15:56 🔗 Atluxity how can anyone possibly hate us?
15:56 🔗 SketchCow Me.
15:56 🔗 SketchCow Different that AT
15:56 🔗 Atluxity oh
15:56 🔗 SketchCow I'm easy to hate.
15:56 🔗 Atluxity true.... but
15:57 🔗 Atluxity :)
15:57 🔗 Atluxity I still like you
15:57 🔗 SketchCow I tell people they're too slow, too lame, and too conservative and the wave is going to wreck them.
15:58 🔗 SketchCow Nobody likes hearing that.
15:58 🔗 MrRadar From what I understand "orthodox" archivists are concerned with making sure the data is organized as it is collected whereas we are generally more concerned with making sure the data actually exists in the first place
16:00 🔗 SketchCow You understand mostly right, yes.
16:01 🔗 SketchCow I said a lot of our ethics at several archivist events
16:01 🔗 SketchCow And I've eventually discovered the stream of people who are horrified.
16:03 🔗 Atluxity "with feeling"?
16:03 🔗 vitzli speaking of existing vs non-existing data: isohunt audit finished, 1013093 .torrent files are accounted for
16:06 🔗 midas nice
16:07 🔗 midas SketchCow: summary of why people hate you: you tell them they are wrong, tell them you will get the data. no matter what. people scream at you on twitter because they dont understand the why.
16:07 🔗 midas i like that.
16:08 🔗 midas and so many other reasons i cant even start to understand
16:09 🔗 midas but still a cool dude with a mission, i like that.
16:10 🔗 vitzli There is an article from 1932 from photo magazine bitching about 35mm leicas and how they're bad for journalists; paraphrasing - "Real pros must use medium format"
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16:12 🔗 ErkDog I watched some of your talks the other day SketchCow :-D
16:13 🔗 vitzli the rationale was that they (magazine) wanted best picture possible, while Leica gave pictures as fast as it could
16:15 🔗 MrRadar It's also important to remmeber how much film technology has advanced since then
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16:15 🔗 ErkDog FILM? lol
16:16 🔗 MrRadar Today 35mm is (or, rather, was since nobody shotos analog any more except for aesthetic reasons) very good
16:16 🔗 MrRadar At the time it may not have been up to the quality required
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16:28 🔗 vitzli give people topic to bitch about and they will do - anything goes - wrong metadata format, wrong medium, sharing information via twitter instead of a proper scientific article, chatting over IRC intead of a conference, scanner is not professional enough, mostly-text book not scanned at 2400 dpi
16:30 🔗 SketchCow I have a talk coming up in a few places. A lot are remote this year.
16:32 🔗 SketchCow This is meant to be the year I get my home in shape. It's happening!
16:43 🔗 godane i'm at 650k items
16:44 🔗 SketchCow In Internet Archive's next 503(c) statement, it will mostly say "A non-profit archive dedicated to housing godane"
16:47 🔗 godane i'm grabbing mp3 from this event: https://kpfa.org/episode/65415/
16:48 🔗 godane it must have been from 7PM to like 5PM the next day
16:48 🔗 godane saying that cause its 236MB
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16:58 🔗 SketchCow I've got an entire folder of scripts to move your files around, godane.
16:58 🔗 SketchCow I'm running them right now.
16:58 🔗 godane thank you
16:58 🔗 SketchCow (I should really make them run regularly, so it'll just put them off to the right places automatically.)
17:00 🔗 godane i'm going out now
17:00 🔗 godane bbl
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17:09 🔗 vitzli SketchCow, if an archivist gives an advice that leads to archiving less stuff and slowly that you did before - it is a bad advice and not a very good archivist
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17:11 🔗 vitzli good night all
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18:26 🔗 Frogging Has anyone considered archiving http://ix.io/ and the related http://sprunge.us/ ?
18:26 🔗 ersi Seems like you have, so I would say yes
18:26 🔗 Frogging They're pastebins, both run by the same guy, looks like kind of a pet project
18:27 🔗 Frogging I could have a go at it, I'm not sure what the best practices and methodology of archiving such things are though
18:29 🔗 Frogging don't know if it should be written to WARCs, or a tarball, or .txt files, or something else
18:31 🔗 ersi The answer is always WARC
18:31 🔗 xmc ^
18:32 🔗 ersi At least if you have a choice about it
18:32 🔗 ersi No choice? Doing whatever is better than nothing
18:33 🔗 Frogging hm, I'll look into it
18:34 🔗 yipdw we have many tools to record HTTP interactions into a WARC, so unless you want something really custom it should not be too much of a pain to use those
18:35 🔗 ersi and you could possibly just chuck it into archivebot and sort of be done with it, depending on the sites
18:35 🔗 Frogging wget can do it, right?
18:35 🔗 ersi yeah, if it's over version 1.12
18:38 🔗 xmc there's a warc-writing http proxy server somewhere on https://github.com/archiveteam/ too
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21:44 🔗 eddiedean Quick question. I've made a recovery tool for Archive.org. Should I register & edit the wiki page or only I comment it here and any of you can add it :)
21:45 🔗 Atluxity recovery tool?
21:45 🔗 eddiedean Yeah, for retrieve the copy of your website stored in Archive.org
21:45 🔗 Atluxity if you want to make sure it gets done, you better register and edit the wiki
21:45 🔗 Atluxity also, thanks!
21:46 🔗 eddiedean If any of you can give it a try... I'm trying to polish it. It is a personal experiment that I've done :P
21:46 🔗 eddiedean http://waybackr.com
21:46 🔗 eddiedean Oh, so I have to do this in order to register...
21:46 🔗 eddiedean WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
21:46 🔗 Atluxity yahoosucks
21:46 🔗 eddiedean HAHAHA
21:46 🔗 eddiedean LOL
21:47 🔗 Atluxity :)
21:49 🔗 eddiedean Thanks Atluxity
21:55 🔗 Atluxity together we make a good team :)
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23:41 🔗 SketchCow FOS WILL GO DOWN FOR SECURITY UPGRADES IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES OR AFTER
23:42 🔗 SketchCow OUR LOVE CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS
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23:43 🔗 xmc but 0day can, which is why upgraeds
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