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closure |
wow, 50% 4 copies, and 50% 3 copies! |
01:39
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trs80 |
my node has finished downloading, abuot 3 hours ago |
01:40
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trs80 |
so about 48h all up |
01:41
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closure |
oh, you have it all? |
01:41
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trs80 |
yep |
01:41
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closure |
there's always SHARD2 ;) |
01:42
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trs80 |
Wow! This shard of the IA is fully backed up now! |
01:42
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trs80 |
I know of 4 copies of every file (including one copy at the IA itself). |
01:43
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closure |
ah, that message is a little wrong isn't it |
01:43
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trs80 |
yeah, I was just thinking that |
01:44
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trs80 |
how do I start on SHARD2? |
01:44
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closure |
run ./checkoutshard shard2 |
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GitHub122/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master 65b9cc0 Joey Hess: fix message when done; a client may have downloaded everything but that does not mean NUMCOPIES was reached yet |
01:45
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GitHub122/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master 691c95a Joey Hess: work on newest shards first, those are most likely to not be done yet |
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GitHub122/#internetarchive.bak |
[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/ve3Um |
01:46
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db48x |
details, details |
01:46
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GitHub83/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master e67be5b Joey Hess: accept uppercase SHARD names |
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ve3U8 |
01:48
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GitHub47/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master 1ca901e Joey Hess: better, just grep -i for shard names |
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GitHub47/#internetarchive.bak |
[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ve3U7 |
01:49
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trs80 |
joeyh: tac doesn't work (shard2 is returned first by find for me) |
01:49
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closure |
drat |
01:50
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db48x |
sort -nr |
01:50
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closure |
fails at 100 |
01:51
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closure |
-n needs only numbers I think |
01:52
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closure |
I know, I'll add the ctime to the find output |
01:55
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GitHub185/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master 0d43159 Joey Hess: sort by ctime |
01:55
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GitHub185/#internetarchive.bak |
[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ve3Tx |
01:56
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trs80 |
yep, running shard2 now |
01:56
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closure |
it's 3.2tb iirc |
01:57
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trs80 |
hmm, my diskreserve wasn't applied in the shard2/.git/config |
01:58
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closure |
I forget if I tested that part |
01:58
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closure |
code for it is in checkoutshard |
01:58
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trs80 |
git user.name and email were set |
01:59
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trs80 |
I suspect the find didn't work for the same reason |
01:59
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closure |
ah, I see |
02:00
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closure |
found shard2 |
02:01
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GitHub80/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master ab2c2c9 Joey Hess: find prevshard before we create a new shard |
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GitHub80/#internetarchive.bak |
[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ve3kd |
02:02
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trs80 |
cheers |
02:12
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trs80 |
why is 3 copies red now? |
02:14
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closure |
because the coloring is broken |
02:14
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closure |
it just averages between green and red, and with 2 current groups, one is green and one red |
02:15
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closure |
3 copies was appearing grey earlier too |
02:15
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trs80 nods |
02:16
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closure |
I think SketchCow can fix it by filling in a 0.. if you view source, some lines just lack a number in them |
02:19
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closure |
hmm, no, doesn't help. |
02:20
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closure |
filling in a dummy value of 1 does seem to work |
02:20
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closure |
heh, 0.0001 works |
02:20
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beardicus |
where's the code for the stats page? |
02:20
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closure |
not in git wherever it is.. |
02:21
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beardicus |
aha. i don't see a dot for me on the map :( |
02:21
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beardicus |
thought i'd poke around about that. |
02:22
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closure |
http://iabak.archiveteam.org/stats/SHARD1.geolist |
02:24
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closure |
oh, he seems to me generating it in my home directory |
02:24
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closure |
that's convenient for me finding it |
02:26
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pikhq |
Alas, the entry for me is slightly wrong. |
02:27
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pikhq |
... admittedly only trivially so, I think that's the right ZIP code for the other side of the street. :) |
02:27
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db48x |
heh |
02:29
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closure |
fixed |
02:32
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02:33
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closure |
it thinks I'm in milan and SC, and NJ. Wrong on 3 counts |
02:33
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closure |
the geolocations are pretty good though |
02:34
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db48x |
closure: while you're in there, I posted a change that would add the counts to the tooltips |
02:34
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closure |
we should probably pull it into git |
02:34
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db48x |
yesterday afternoon sometime |
02:34
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db48x |
agreed! |
02:35
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db48x |
dinner, bbl |
02:40
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beardicus |
hmm. not sure we can avoid using `find`s printf feature now that it's used to output the ctime for sorting. |
02:42
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GitHub102/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master c35feeb Joey Hess: docs |
02:42
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GitHub134/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/server 2effa3d Joey Hess: add web page generator script |
02:42
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ve3YT |
02:42
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to server: http://git.io/ve3Yk |
02:42
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closure |
beardicus: well, we can add a fallback that works less well |
02:42
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beardicus |
k. i was just using awk instead to strip the './' |
02:44
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beardicus |
though it looks like that's no longer happening and was completely unecessary anyways :) |
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S[h]O[r]T |
who can take my pub key? :) |
02:50
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closure |
dude |
02:50
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closure |
over here |
02:52
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GitHub30/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/pubkey 1754006 Joey Hess: add S[h]O[r]T |
02:52
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to pubkey: http://git.io/ve3OZ |
02:59
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GitHub138/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/master b134621 Joey Hess: hit webhook to pull new keys in registration process (github's web hook seems slow or not always arriving) |
02:59
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03:08
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S[h]O[r]T |
is the "get" part of git-annex or is that really just wget? |
03:08
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closure |
as in "git annex get" ? |
03:09
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S[h]O[r]T |
yeah, i assume that is what is downloading the files |
03:09
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closure |
it's 3 layers with wget underneath in this case |
03:16
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S[h]O[r]T |
ah ok. |
03:16
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S[h]O[r]T |
if i read this right i can run iabak multiple times without issue? |
03:19
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closure |
indeed |
03:19
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closure |
one of the things one of those layers allows :) |
03:55
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SketchCow |
Hey what wha |
04:10
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SketchCow |
Good cheap hack. |
04:10
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SketchCow |
Meanwhile, we're closed to 100% 4 |
04:46
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tpw_rules |
that's wicked progress from like yesterday |
04:46
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tpw_rules |
in fact all my downloads are done |
04:50
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pikhq |
Sweet, we've only got 3 copy stuff left. |
04:51
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tpw_rules |
closure: you need to add some sort of percentage to reading the size info for "git annex info" |
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Senji |
Hello, can I sign up? |
12:11
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trs80 |
Senji: git clone https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/IA.BAK then have a look at readme.md |
12:12
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trs80 |
you may need to wait for someone (closure) who can add your ssh key |
12:12
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Senji |
Yes, I've done that :) iabak told me to come to irc and give someone an ssh key :) |
12:12
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Senji |
that! |
12:15
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midas |
Senji: dump it here, closure will add it |
12:15
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trs80 |
closure is in the US, so might still be sleeping. in the interim you could add it to https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/IA.BAK/blob/pubkey/SHARD1/pubkeys and send a pull request if your git-fu is up to it |
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Senji |
ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQCY455AWlXCJQjmZf6UZQHNlS0JdE7+24HLaNzZd2lWTDL9xHQkO/m2itYrhh3l5keT8Og3ggTyK+xWM7+1J7Vr7AtjPrM9fmwOwJ9YqFTy6T1ELHNriAl1KJOB75NDF2XKymp6v+T1MSTwPTDx/jmlh4g5C4TJjMNzX6KzKSQO4fNpPqAXZGANcTEWUyD58otq0ihCLfuG6ziyWIKZIoKSkGzf1RML1jsSnyuegbQ6bolMqct5YSt9yv21yoBYNabXGZKOlKyqA7h7Y12SlYKOok9fTmU51EKRJfLkuQETzIp9i0kvIvVWysWJJ6lX5FIo0PmLclq/Vxs+/3dfxlDD jdamery@cleopatra |
12:17
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Senji |
trs80: I'm not really up to handling github faff from my phone (in a break during a con at the moment :)) |
12:18
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trs80 |
yeah, fair enough. eastercon? |
12:18
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Senji |
Yup |
12:51
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S[h]O[r]T |
wish i was getting better speeds from IA. running the script around 7x. was doing almost 1MB/s each during the night but slowed down to around 100KB/s-200KB/s this morning |
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zottelbey |
i feel like it hardly matters how many copies you run at a certain point. there is hardly any difference in speed for me whether i run 10 or 20 copies. 2MB/s is the maximum i will get. i guess the peering to germany is terrible |
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zottelbey |
sometimes i get peaks of 7MB/s on single files. but thats rare enough. |
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db48x |
I'll add your key, one sec |
13:08
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GitHub8/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/pubkey 0263695 Daniel Brooks: add a key for Senji |
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[IA.BAK] db48x pushed 1 new commit to pubkey: http://git.io/vesbl |
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Senji |
thanks |
14:02
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db48x |
you're welcome |
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SketchCow |
Things look like we're getting stuff done, which is great. |
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Kenshin |
SketchCow: any idea if IA.BAK is putting extra pressure on IA's network? the ISC link has been in the red zone since the past 2 months |
19:10
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Kenshin |
that's probably partially the reason for flucutating download speeds |
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Senji |
Hmm, iabak still can't get access to SHARD1@iabak.archiveteam.org:shard - do I need to wait for someone to pull the key to the shard server or something? :) |
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SketchCow |
It is NOT putting extra pressure. |
19:47
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SketchCow |
What it's doing is revealing slowdowns. |
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SketchCow |
WHich is great |
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SketchCow |
We're going to fix these things soon |
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pikhq |
Yeah, they don't appear to have any instances of falling over or anything. |
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pikhq |
This certainly hasn't caused a DOS on the Archive. :) |
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closure |
Senji: your key is on the server afaics |
20:04
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Senji |
Aha it's working now. great! |
20:05
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IA.BAK/master 8c57f7a Joey Hess: fix url to force immediate key deploy |
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/veZSa |
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SketchCow |
We should figure out how long it's taken to initiate and complete this 2.91gb shard |
20:08
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closure |
http://iabak.archiveteam.org/stats/SHARD1.filestransferred |
20:08
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closure |
we have most of the history here |
20:08
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closure |
(still needs a graph of this made) |
20:09
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midas |
what kind of data is that closure ? total transferred? |
20:10
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closure |
number of downloads of files |
20:10
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closure sees SHARD2 already has 5 clients and 32k files transferred |
20:11
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midas |
oh shard2 is active? |
20:11
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closure |
./checkoutshard SHARD2 |
20:11
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midas |
ill start on that in a bit |
20:15
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closure is a little concerned by the 21486 files on SHARD1 that have more than 3 copies downloaded |
20:15
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closure |
that's a quarter of the whole thing that was downloaded more than necessary |
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pikhq |
Huh. Race condition? |
20:16
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closure |
yes, 2 clients decide to get the same file same time |
20:16
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pikhq |
Presumably there's no simple way to get two hosts to coordinate on that. |
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Senji |
What about the 15 files at +7? that's a lot of race |
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tpw_rules |
closure: are you forcing the ignore if downloaded more than once? |
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tpw_rules |
because i'm not running with any copies limitation |
20:19
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closure |
tpw_rules: well, if you're just running git annex get without --not --copies 4, it'll just get everything |
20:19
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tpw_rules |
exactly. i think people are doing that |
20:19
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closure |
maybe |
20:19
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closure |
we might get cleaner data from the next shard. |
20:20
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tpw_rules |
blah i don't have disk space for that |
20:20
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pikhq |
Though I'd highly recommend coordinating with others for it, it *might* be worthwhile for some people with a lot of redundant copies to drop them. |
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pikhq |
Particularly if it'd let you get more helpful data. |
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closure notices that the first several files have 6 and 7 copies |
20:25
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closure |
so probably those ones are just people running git annex get manually |
20:33
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Senji |
hmm, i'm getting errors: dirname: invalid option -- 'z' |
20:34
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closure |
Senji: it's an old version of coreutils iirc |
20:34
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closure |
touch NOSHUF and it will avoid that codepath |
20:36
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Senji |
right that's happily downloading now |
20:38
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midas |
closure: thats probably me :p |
20:38
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closure |
actually, I forgot I did a manual git annex get in a lot of usenethistorical, so probably me too ;) |
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midas |
lets see if munin likes to plot some downloaded files in a neat way |
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closure |
in fact, you can see the culprits in git annex whereis --copies 5 .. the last listed client is the one that got the file last |
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midas |
closure: http://dit.serveert.me.uk:8081/munin/serveert.me.uk/dit.serveert.me.uk/iabak.html |
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closure |
graph seems empty? |
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midas |
it grabs your imput file from http://iabak.archiveteam.org/stats/SHARD1.filestransferred and feeds it into munin |
20:43
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midas |
yeah only started like 5 minutes ago :p |
20:44
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closure |
ah, it's not getting old data |
20:44
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midas |
nope |
20:44
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midas |
i could add that |
20:44
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closure |
let me make a ALL.filestransferred across all shards and you could add that |
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midas |
that would be perfect |
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GitHub117/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/server 0debc26 Joey Hess: get stats for ALL |
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GitHub117/#internetarchive.bak |
IA.BAK/server 6ce9b36 Joey Hess: support ALL |
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[IA.BAK] joeyh pushed 2 new commits to server: http://git.io/veZpe |
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closure |
there we go |
20:54
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midas |
http://iabak.archiveteam.org/stats/ALL.filestransferred is the output file? |
20:55
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closure |
SketchCow: BTW, I don't know what you're planning for the graphs as we get more shards, but you could use this to do a page overviewing them all |
20:55
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closure |
midas: yes |
20:55
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midas |
perfect. ill change the imput file |
21:01
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closure |
midas: also, can munin make anything of http://iabak.archiveteam.org/stats/ALL.clientconnsperhour ? |
21:02
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midas |
sure, but i dont see any data in it |
21:02
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midas |
just timestamps |
21:03
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closure |
the data is the first number |
21:04
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S[h]O[r]T |
i prob should make similar graphs on my client. ive just been looking at my download speeds & disk utilization http://74.63.230.61/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/if_eth0.html http://74.63.230.61/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/diskstats_utilization/vdc.html |
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IA.BAK/server 59eaeb4 Joey Hess: add ALL file that sums up the numcopies stats for all shards |
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closure |
yeah, that's a confusing format |
21:04
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midas |
ah right, yeah now i get it :p |
21:04
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midas |
shouldnt be a problem, ill build that in a minute |
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IA.BAK/server 96a29e6 Joey Hess: move file into place |
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IA.BAK/server 212b7af Joey Hess: improve format |
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IA.BAK/server a1dc565 Joey Hess: include 0 |
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midas |
seems to be working closure, i've added the graphs per client/hour but that needs to update |
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midas |
http://dit.serveert.me.uk:8081/munin/serveert.me.uk/dit.serveert.me.uk/iaconnected-day.png closure |
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closure: My plan for the graphs that I'm on is just to concatenate all the shards. |
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SketchCow |
I'm just waiting to hit the full SHARD1 and then we'll throw them together |
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Since people are jumping the gun and grabbing shard2, when we add it in, it'll be well along. |
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IA.BAK/server d6512ee Joey Hess: add SHARDn.size file giving size in tb |
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IA.BAK/server 8ec147e Joey Hess: fix |
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IA.BAK/server 4e51e2c Joey Hess: fix |
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IA.BAK/server 97896ea Joey Hess: prepare for SHARD2 and ALL; add munin graphs |
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IA.BAK/server 4adbce0 Joey Hess: redundant div |
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closure |
midas: odd saw-toothing on the connected users grap |
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+h |
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yipdw |
closure: I see that git-annex is in FreeBSD's ports collection; would you recommend it as stable enough for this project? |
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yipdw |
my big storage thing is a ZFS pool that I'm looking to migrate off of Solaris |
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db48x |
what's the version number? |
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if the version is new enough |
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db48x |
needs 201502something |
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yipdw |
I don't know |
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yipdw |
oh wait, version of git-annex or the ZFS pool |
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closure |
the former |
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yipdw |
oh I plan to use whatever is newest and most appropriate |
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yipdw |
I haven't actually built the FreeBSD system yet, just want to know if I'll hit any known roadblocks doing so |
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yipdw |
accessing the pool via CIFS on an Ubuntu machine seemed(?) to work but I'd rather have one system powered instead of two |
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yipdw |
plus doing that I can avoid all the messages about crippled filesystems :P |
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IA.BAK/server ac9ef18 Joey Hess: generate stats for all individual shards, and combined stats |
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http://teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org/ia.bak/SHARD2.html |
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yipdw |
nice |
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tpw_rules |
oh dear |
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tpw_rules |
i don't have the disk for that :( |